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Author Topic: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread  (Read 5415 times)

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #120 on: October 01, 2020, 09:58:48 PM »
In what was mostly an abomination of a 2019/2020 season a highlight was our cup run and playing so well against Man City only to lose narrowly. I would have loved another one of those coupled with a much steadier league campaign. I donít like this ďItís only the League Cupď attitude. Weíre not at the top of the tree where you might have to make a choice. Not even close. But then you see how many FA Cups Arsenal have won in recent years or that a Man City have won the past 4 LCís. Itís important to learn how to win to create that culture of accomplishment.

Iím pretty sure Jack Grealish is mightily fucked off tonight.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #121 on: October 01, 2020, 09:59:55 PM »
100%, this side dispatched comfortably a better side arguably, have let themselves and Smithy down.

80% of tonightís team will not get game time until January with a bit of luck.

Roll on Sunday

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 How the hell did we survive post match thread
« Reply #122 on: October 01, 2020, 10:07:26 PM »
And there's me thinking that playing like that was behind us.

Why? Does any team play well every game? Didn't Man City just concede five at home? Didn't Bayern Munich just lose to a village team? Nobody plays well every match. The season so far suggests we have already made massive strides on last season and I don't think we need to abandon all hope after one poor performance against a well organised team.

Spot on.

Yes this. That was shite, but meh. Gutted to go out of a competition that we could of won, but we had a game 3 days ago and another in 3 days time. The idea of playing a stronger side tonight because we are bound to lose to Liverpool is bizarre, if smith actually did that he would be crucified.
So lots of our second 11 arenít good enough, well hello apart from Man City and Liverpool, most teams second 11 isnít that good.
We do need another couple in, but not necessarily now, weíve done enough this summer and need a period of consolidation before getting more players in. Itís all a work in progress.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #123 on: October 01, 2020, 10:10:25 PM »
Besides, there wasn't too many complaints about the line up before the game.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #124 on: October 01, 2020, 10:10:42 PM »
With all due respect those people saying they arenít bothered by it obviously arenít interested in Villa doing what they and us are in football for.  To win things like er trophies.  24 Fcukin years.
Absolutely. Tonight was for a place in the quarter final. Right now there are other priorities, I get that, but I grew up with my dad telling me that winning trophies was in the DNA of Aston Villa football club. I'll get over it of course but I am fucking gutted.

Clubs aren't in football to win things anymore. They exist to be in two leagues that haver led us to situations like tonight.
I drag myself to Villa Park and around the country when I get chance with the vague hope that one day I can celebrate us winning a trophy again with my lads, both born in the 90's and have only ever seen us win at Wembley the once and that was the play off final. I can't accept that we aren't in football to win things anymore.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #125 on: October 01, 2020, 10:12:50 PM »
With all due respect those people saying they arenít bothered by it obviously arenít interested in Villa doing what they and us are in football for.  To win things like er trophies.  24 Fcukin years.
Absolutely. Tonight was for a place in the quarter final. Right now there are other priorities, I get that, but I grew up with my dad telling me that winning trophies was in the DNA of Aston Villa football club. I'll get over it of course but I am fucking gutted.

Clubs aren't in football to win things anymore. They exist to be in two leagues that haver led us to situations like tonight.
I drag myself to Villa Park and around the country when I get chance with the vague hope that one day I can celebrate us winning a trophy again with my lads, both born in the 90's and have only ever seen us win at Wembley the once and that was the play off final. I can't accept that we aren't in football to win things anymore.

Unless I've missed something the final is going to be played BCD isn't it given it's early March.

Perhaps the FA cup final will have some fans back in although it's certainly not going to be a 90k capacity.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #126 on: October 01, 2020, 10:30:53 PM »
With all due respect those people saying they arenít bothered by it obviously arenít interested in Villa doing what they and us are in football for.  To win things like er trophies.  24 Fcukin years.
Absolutely. Tonight was for a place in the quarter final. Right now there are other priorities, I get that, but I grew up with my dad telling me that winning trophies was in the DNA of Aston Villa football club. I'll get over it of course but I am fucking gutted.

Clubs aren't in football to win things anymore. They exist to be in two leagues that haver led us to situations like tonight.
I drag myself to Villa Park and around the country when I get chance with the vague hope that one day I can celebrate us winning a trophy again with my lads, both born in the 90's and have only ever seen us win at Wembley the once and that was the play off final. I can't accept that we aren't in football to win things anymore.

Unless I've missed something the final is going to be played BCD isn't it given it's early March.

Perhaps the FA cup final will have some fans back in although it's certainly not going to be a 90k capacity.
I'm not expecting to be at a match anytime soon.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #127 on: October 01, 2020, 10:31:47 PM »
This is the least disappointed I think I've ever been about us being knocked out of a cup competition. Which is strange, given it was a Wembley day out last season.  Maybe it's the notgoing to matches thing, maybe it's just that I didn't expect much from that particular line-up. Either way, we didn't really learn anything we didn't already know.  I think my biggest disappointment is that none of our reserves gave Dean anything to think about in terms of the first 11.

We're definitely going to see a few of these players in the first 11 over the coming weeks, we've just to go hope they do better than they did tonight. 

The most disappointing performance for me was Traore, not because he was particularl bad, but because I was really hoping to see him stand out as being a bit too good for this level, and that he was absolutely ready and raring to go to take Trez's place - I don't think he is off the back of that performance.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #128 on: October 01, 2020, 10:39:13 PM »
Sorry if it's already been posted but Deano's not happy...

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Aston Villa boss Dean Smith: "First half we were awful even though we had two open goals. We were better in the second half and I thought we could have had two penalties for a couple of shirt pulls. We were excellent at Bristol City and rightly lauded there but we made too many basic errors.

"We still had chances but we didn't take them. It's a set-back, but in terms of our priorities, making 11 changes lets you know where we are at. It's certainly a blip and now we have got a tough game on Sunday. I have had these players long enough to know about them but the players who came in tonight certainly did not do themselves credit."

https://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-stoke/report/438843

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #129 on: October 01, 2020, 10:40:32 PM »
Can't argue with that.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #130 on: October 01, 2020, 10:41:12 PM »
Although we where shite pretty much all over the pitch, there was still two sitters missed.
That Lansbury header shouldíve been his last touch in a Villa shirt. £40k a week for that level of dross makes me feel sick.
I agree that if we are putting out a second string lineup then why not play a youth centre back for example instead of Elmo. Same applies to Lansbury. To be fair Jota offered more in his 10 minute cameo than he did all match.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #131 on: October 01, 2020, 10:42:45 PM »
I don't recall any penalty shouts but by the second half I wasn't giving it my full attention.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #132 on: October 01, 2020, 10:44:31 PM »
Probably an element of shop window, probably an element of getting them fit .Other than that in terms of squad development and competition, I can't really make an argument for why the likes of Lansbury are playing instead of kids.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #133 on: October 01, 2020, 10:46:06 PM »
A couple of injuries to key players in the 1st 11 and we don't have much cover i.e. we could well be fooked. If Mings, Jack or Watkins is out then we  are looking at a big drop in quality stepping in.

Mind you, we need another striker whatever.

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Re: Aston Villa 0 v Stoke 1 Post-Match Thread
« Reply #134 on: October 01, 2020, 10:49:46 PM »
Merely speculation, but I assume the reasoning behind playing those players tonight as opposed to a few more kids was that there's a fair chance we'll have to call on the services of one or two of them in the near future, and a lack of reserve team football means that games like tonight are the only opportunity to instill any kind of match readiness in them.

 


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