Quote from: Clampy on October 01, 2020, 09:40:52 PMQuote from: Legion on October 01, 2020, 09:38:15 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 01, 2020, 09:36:06 PMQuote from: john e on October 01, 2020, 09:32:56 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:56 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?He was certainly the biggest worry for me out there tonight the rest I know what they are but Traore was supposedly the upgrade on the wingerscan’t judge him on that one performance but if you can’t shine against Stokes seconds then it’s not looking good when it comes to top teams in the prem So, you are judging him on one performance then?No, he isn't.It does sound like it if he suggesting if he cant do it against Stoke, he won't do it against the top teams. It's his second game. I know your a massive trollbut 2 games is all we can talk about because that’s all we’ve seen so far what else are we supposed to do
Quote from: Legion on October 01, 2020, 09:38:15 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 01, 2020, 09:36:06 PMQuote from: john e on October 01, 2020, 09:32:56 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:56 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?He was certainly the biggest worry for me out there tonight the rest I know what they are but Traore was supposedly the upgrade on the wingerscan’t judge him on that one performance but if you can’t shine against Stokes seconds then it’s not looking good when it comes to top teams in the prem So, you are judging him on one performance then?No, he isn't.It does sound like it if he suggesting if he cant do it against Stoke, he won't do it against the top teams. It's his second game.
Quote from: Clampy on October 01, 2020, 09:36:06 PMQuote from: john e on October 01, 2020, 09:32:56 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:56 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?He was certainly the biggest worry for me out there tonight the rest I know what they are but Traore was supposedly the upgrade on the wingerscan’t judge him on that one performance but if you can’t shine against Stokes seconds then it’s not looking good when it comes to top teams in the prem So, you are judging him on one performance then?No, he isn't.
Quote from: john e on October 01, 2020, 09:32:56 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:56 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?He was certainly the biggest worry for me out there tonight the rest I know what they are but Traore was supposedly the upgrade on the wingerscan’t judge him on that one performance but if you can’t shine against Stokes seconds then it’s not looking good when it comes to top teams in the prem So, you are judging him on one performance then?
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:56 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?He was certainly the biggest worry for me out there tonight the rest I know what they are but Traore was supposedly the upgrade on the wingerscan’t judge him on that one performance but if you can’t shine against Stokes seconds then it’s not looking good when it comes to top teams in the prem
Quote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?
The single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)
Ivo's full-time verdictSteer - perhaps it's still an aura of penalty saves at West Brom about him, but he always looks compentent to me. Amazing how many dodgy keepers we have signed ahead of him (in particular that lad on load from Spain)Gilbert - a couple of weeks ago, I was like "do we really need Matty Cash"..? Answer: YESElmohamady - normally 7/10 but dropped down to 6.5/10 for a miscontrol into touch near the endHause - I sometimes suspect he passes the ball to the opposition because he knows his strengths are defending out of possessionTaylor - not the worst offender for backwards passes tonight but still does his level best to thwart us attacking down the left. At one point the commentator started rhapsodising about Taylor's attacking process whilst declaring Gilbert a defender-only full-back... Nakamba - at least he has some urgency about his play. Not sure why he was playing further ahead of Lansbury second half.Lansbury - not only does he only pass backwards but he has to do so in the fashion of a golfer chipping out of a bunker. Please God don't let him reappear in the FA Cup 3rd round.Ramsey - faded in the second half, still showed much more invention than LansburyEl Ghazi - drives me potty, so much talent so little urgency. Can we fit him with a shock collar so that Dean can zap him when he takes a second and then third unnecessary touch. Did a Grealish by coming far too deep near the end. Still capable of putting in an inviting cross on occassion, one right at the death to the back post was begging to be headed in.Davis - really disappointed with him tonight. He no longer seems like that player who had the barnstormer on his full debut against Norwich. Watching him you can understand why they say "the first yard is in your head". We must get another striker in before deadline day because the other option is...Traore - ...who apparently the French fans weren't distraught to see leave. You know you have signed a good player when the Brentford, Forest or Arsenal fans are gutted to see their man leave. Trezeguet improved without playing tonight.SubsKonza - not really troubled by Stoke who were happy to defendWatkins - quick to force the Stoke keeper into a save, starved of service afterwards. Jota - I would have played him instead of Lansbury (with Nakamba pushed back). At least he tries to pass forwards. Overall: anyone think we should have played a stronger team tonight seeing as Liverpool will beat us anyhow? I am desperate to see Jack win something with the Villa (particularly to validate his contract extension) and now we only have the FA Cup to dream of this season.
Quote from: john e on October 01, 2020, 09:47:41 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 01, 2020, 09:40:52 PMQuote from: Legion on October 01, 2020, 09:38:15 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 01, 2020, 09:36:06 PMQuote from: john e on October 01, 2020, 09:32:56 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:56 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?He was certainly the biggest worry for me out there tonight the rest I know what they are but Traore was supposedly the upgrade on the wingerscan’t judge him on that one performance but if you can’t shine against Stokes seconds then it’s not looking good when it comes to top teams in the prem So, you are judging him on one performance then?No, he isn't.It does sound like it if he suggesting if he cant do it against Stoke, he won't do it against the top teams. It's his second game. I know your a massive trollbut 2 games is all we can talk about because that’s all we’ve seen so far what else are we supposed to do Cut that out, please.
but he does my head in everyone on here knows what he is it’s no secret
Quote from: Jaffa on October 01, 2020, 09:44:46 PMHow many times does our second string squad need to show Dean that they are not very good?As soon as saw the line up, I wanted my £10 back!Apart from the obvious players tonight, the rest belong in the bomb squad and if Messrs Smith, Lange & Purslow have said that we are done in the transfer market as far as further incomings are concerned, then we need to wrap the first team in cotton wool & pray for no injuries.I know Davis has just earned a new contract but he needs to go out on loan for his sake and my anger management.For Sale / Loan ASAP :- Davis, AEG, Hause, Taylor, Lansbury, Jota, Kalinic, Nyland.That same second string squad won the previous two rounds.
How many times does our second string squad need to show Dean that they are not very good?As soon as saw the line up, I wanted my £10 back!Apart from the obvious players tonight, the rest belong in the bomb squad and if Messrs Smith, Lange & Purslow have said that we are done in the transfer market as far as further incomings are concerned, then we need to wrap the first team in cotton wool & pray for no injuries.I know Davis has just earned a new contract but he needs to go out on loan for his sake and my anger management.For Sale / Loan ASAP :- Davis, AEG, Hause, Taylor, Lansbury, Jota, Kalinic, Nyland.
Quote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:40:31 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:56 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?Harsh perhaps but I would. He was everything tonight that many sources have said he is - half arsed, poor on the ball, lacked discipline. It’s not just harsh, it’s absolutely ridiculous. I don’t know whether he’ll succeed or not, but drawing a line under him after two games is just nonsense.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:56 PMQuote from: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 09:23:51 PMThe single redeeming feature - will hopefully serve as a reminder that we are not yet capable or strong enough to field a second 11 anywhere near the quality needed. All 10 can go (I’ll give Ramsey the one pass)So you'd get rid of Traore after a couple of games?Harsh perhaps but I would. He was everything tonight that many sources have said he is - half arsed, poor on the ball, lacked discipline.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on October 01, 2020, 09:47:08 PMQuote from: Jaffa on October 01, 2020, 09:44:46 PMHow many times does our second string squad need to show Dean that they are not very good?As soon as saw the line up, I wanted my £10 back!Apart from the obvious players tonight, the rest belong in the bomb squad and if Messrs Smith, Lange & Purslow have said that we are done in the transfer market as far as further incomings are concerned, then we need to wrap the first team in cotton wool & pray for no injuries.I know Davis has just earned a new contract but he needs to go out on loan for his sake and my anger management.For Sale / Loan ASAP :- Davis, AEG, Hause, Taylor, Lansbury, Jota, Kalinic, Nyland.That same second string squad won the previous two rounds. We had Mings, Jack and Ollie against Burton but I agree Dave, but why didn’t they play like they did a week ago against Bristol City? - no consistency
With all due respect those people saying they aren’t bothered by it obviously aren’t interested in Villa doing what they and us are in football for. To win things like er trophies. 24 Fcukin years.
Quote from: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 09:40:28 PMWith all due respect those people saying they aren’t bothered by it obviously aren’t interested in Villa doing what they and us are in football for. To win things like er trophies. 24 Fcukin years. Absolutely. Tonight was for a place in the quarter final. Right now there are other priorities, I get that, but I grew up with my dad telling me that winning trophies was in the DNA of Aston Villa football club. I'll get over it of course but I am fucking gutted.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on October 01, 2020, 09:15:05 PMQuote from: brian green on October 01, 2020, 08:59:59 PMAnd there's me thinking that playing like that was behind us.Why? Does any team play well every game? Didn't Man City just concede five at home? Didn't Bayern Munich just lose to a village team? Nobody plays well every match. The season so far suggests we have already made massive strides on last season and I don't think we need to abandon all hope after one poor performance against a well organised team.Spot on.
Quote from: brian green on October 01, 2020, 08:59:59 PMAnd there's me thinking that playing like that was behind us.Why? Does any team play well every game? Didn't Man City just concede five at home? Didn't Bayern Munich just lose to a village team? Nobody plays well every match. The season so far suggests we have already made massive strides on last season and I don't think we need to abandon all hope after one poor performance against a well organised team.
And there's me thinking that playing like that was behind us.