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Online Aldridge Villa

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1125 on: February 21, 2021, 06:20:02 PM »
I feel his antics when subbed are borne out of frustration with his own performance levels as opposed to any petulance in the direction of the management. He knows that a decent start to the season is slowly being frittered away to the point of no return to B6 next season. With that in mind , he has my sympathy but no way is he good enough nor fit enough at present.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1126 on: February 21, 2021, 06:25:09 PM »
When you look at the difference between the impact he is having on us and that of Lingard as West Ham it is really quite staggering


That’s harsh. You’re forgetting goals against Leicester and Southampton that won games and against Liverpool he was awesome, creating a number of goals.

Accept he’s poor at the minute but he’s played more than Lingard and contributed more than him this season.

Mind you I’d drop him for Ramsey next game.
That's not true. Both have 3 goals and one assist.


However, you could argue scoring the goal in a 1-0 win is more beneficial. In truth comparison of impact has to be over all games played not just the last three or four, Barkley was played in a more withdrawn role for some of his games than Lingard, so clean sheets?

 Hes contributed but that has fallen off a cliff since the injury and then the COVID outbreak. That doesn’t mean he should get sympathy, as he’s been poor by the standards we expected over the last few games.



Let's see if Lingard's contribution now falls off a cliff

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1127 on: February 21, 2021, 06:27:47 PM »
Rubbish to be honest. Unbalances the side. Time to bench and give experience to Sanson and Ramsey.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1128 on: February 21, 2021, 06:30:55 PM »
I feel his antics when subbed are borne out of frustration with his own performance levels as opposed to any petulance in the direction of the management. He knows that a decent start to the season is slowly being frittered away to the point of no return to B6 next season. With that in mind , he has my sympathy but no way is he good enough nor fit enough at present.

I agree with this.
I think he's seeing his England chance disappear after a promising start to his Villa loan spell.
It may change for him but now there is competition for his place big time and he's struggling to find an answer to keep his place in the starting 11.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1129 on: February 21, 2021, 06:32:56 PM »
I'm possibly over reacting as much to his sulking as he did to getting subbed.

Grealish did it against Newcastle, but given that he's captain, given that he saw how the newspapers misrepresented his spat with Ian Woan, I'd be amazed he'd be naive or irresponsible enough to do that again.

With Barkley though, it's not a one off from him. The Sky cameras were looking for it given his reaction to being subbed against Arsenal.

A bad run of results, and clips of his tantrums will be held up as proof our dressing room is in disarray.

Far as Im concerned he can jog on. He's good at jogging.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1130 on: February 21, 2021, 06:33:24 PM »
When you look at the difference between the impact he is having on us and that of Lingard as West Ham it is really quite staggering


That’s harsh. You’re forgetting goals against Leicester and Southampton that won games and against Liverpool he was awesome, creating a number of goals.

Accept he’s poor at the minute but he’s played more than Lingard and contributed more than him this season.

Mind you I’d drop him for Ramsey next game.
That's not true. Both have 3 goals and one assist.


However, you could argue scoring the goal in a 1-0 win is more beneficial. In truth comparison of impact has to be over all games played not just the last three or four, Barkley was played in a more withdrawn role for some of his games than Lingard, so clean sheets?

 Hes contributed but that has fallen off a cliff since the injury and then the COVID outbreak. That doesn’t mean he should get sympathy, as he’s been poor by the standards we expected over the last few games.



Let's see if Lingard's contribution now falls off a cliff

Why? Who cares if it does or doesn’t.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1131 on: February 21, 2021, 06:53:15 PM »
Taking 5 minutes to come off the side of the pitch is all a bit 'woe is me' and focussing the attention on himself rather than just being a good pro and getting off the pitch quickly and supporting your teammates.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1132 on: February 21, 2021, 07:03:21 PM »
Obviously I don’t know the bloke but he comes across as painfully shy and somewhat troubled. It’s a crossroads for Barkley and I want it to work out for him and us. I think some straight talking needs to be done and the bench until fit and in better form. I thought his last good game was the first half v Newcastle. Pretty desperate since.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1133 on: February 21, 2021, 07:14:13 PM »
Taking 5 minutes to come off the side of the pitch is all a bit 'woe is me' and focussing the attention on himself rather than just being a good pro and getting off the pitch quickly and supporting your teammates.

It was bizarre behaviour really and was like something you would see in a training game.  Not sure his walk past the Holte after that performance would have been that slow if it had been full!!

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1134 on: February 21, 2021, 07:16:04 PM »
Bring him on with 30 minutes to go, from the bench, next game.
Let's have some energy from Ramsey to start.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1135 on: February 21, 2021, 08:11:53 PM »
I’m not sure if it is hamstring related, but he does look painfully slow. Personally I’d take him out for the Leeds game, they’re all pretty rapid and I think he (and we) would struggle to cope with it.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1136 on: February 21, 2021, 08:30:23 PM »
Send him back.


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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1137 on: February 21, 2021, 08:36:57 PM »
He’s done a great job making sure we don’t part of with them thick end of £40m to buy him. Chelsea can’t be happy about that.

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1138 on: February 21, 2021, 08:39:18 PM »
Either Smith has a total blind spot or his contract stipulates he plays if he declares himself fit.

Which is it?

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Re: Ross Barkley - signed
« Reply #1139 on: February 21, 2021, 08:46:04 PM »
Either Smith has a total blind spot or his contract stipulates he plays if he declares himself fit.

Which is it?

Have you ever thought it might be neither?

 


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