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Author Topic: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread  (Read 8409 times)

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #195 on: September 21, 2020, 11:35:37 PM »
Ideally it'd be nice to have two decent options in each position. Targett or Taylor does seem a poor selection. Mind you, Guilbert and Cash is much better and I wish we'd move on Elmo rather than Guilbert.
I donít understand how we couldnít get a reliable left back for the money that we paid for Targett. Guilbert on the other side isnít perfect, but cost about a third of the price. Guilbert seems to have been scouted, and I canít help thinking that there must be better options than Targett out there. I can really see why him and Taylor get switched depending on the opposition, because both have glaring weaknesses.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #196 on: September 21, 2020, 11:39:46 PM »
I will always be grateful for the 3 goals he scored at the end of last season but Trezeguet really is a dreadful footballer.
Agreed. I thought he looked a limited player when playing for Egypt in the World Cup in Russia. IĎve been pleasantly surprised by his goal return considering how out of his depth he looks a lot of the time. At least he looks like he is putting a shift in.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #197 on: September 21, 2020, 11:43:01 PM »
I just don't get why Targett is preferred over Guilbert.

One is a left back, the other right.

Iím no Cloughy I may add.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #198 on: September 21, 2020, 11:48:00 PM »
Davis and Watkins partnership could work well, Watkins speed bought about the sending off but it was always going to be difficult for him once they went narrow and packed the centre of the pitch, Davis is the best hold up player we've got.
Thought Jack had a poor decision day, quick passing was needed but he held on to it for too long, SJM i suspect has found the pace of the premiership too hot for him, goalkeeper look immense but loke most posters worry about Targett and lack of pace wide out.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #199 on: September 21, 2020, 11:52:05 PM »
I just don't get why Targett is preferred over Guilbert.

One is a left back, the other right.

Iím no Cloughy I may add.

My bad.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #200 on: September 21, 2020, 11:52:41 PM »
The main thing is to start with a win. The Everton game aside, the start of last season was a real blow to the confidence, as we kept surrendering leads. It took us 7 games to get to 5 points, whereas we can exceed that if we beat Fulham in our next game. Regardless of the circumstances of today’s game, at least we seem to be getting better at manufacturing results.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #201 on: September 21, 2020, 11:58:35 PM »
Fucking hell Wilder is a whinging ******. I have lost all respect for him. Apparently Egan  was no way red and Targett should have been sent off.

Hate to say it but he's got a point about Targett and that double jeopardy sending off rule. Hard to make a case that he was making a genuine challenge for the ball when the ball was nowhere near him



Targett stayed on as it was in the box although I do recall Chester getting sent off in that mad 3-3 with Preston (cabbage game) and he got sent off after conceding a penalty but you rarely get a red card now for last minute fouls in the box.

Thought the Egan one was interesting. I thought it was similar to the Chelsea CB red when he pulled back Mane even though the ball had run through to Kepa, most agreed it was a red. Yes Watkins was a bit more away from the ball but he was being tugged back a fair bit. Defenders get away with that a fair bit on strikers so Egan rode his luck too much.
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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #202 on: September 22, 2020, 12:01:54 AM »
I agree with Dave Shelley.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #203 on: September 22, 2020, 12:05:24 AM »
They changed the rules a couple of seasons back to stop you being penalised twice with a pen and a red.

Looking at the tug on Watkins, on the highlights you can see him being pulled unnaturally to the side, away from the run of the ball as they are running. Ref in a good position to spot it.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #204 on: September 22, 2020, 02:00:47 AM »
I just don't get why Targett is preferred over Guilbert.

He's not, though

Not positionally, but we've splashed out big for a replacement for Guilbert, when Targett in my opinion is a weaker player.

Isn't it a case of a good right back was available for the right price, to build for the future?  I agree, left back was absolutely a priority and I'm a fan of Freddy. But taking a view to build for the long term, you just have to pull the trigger when the right players become available.

That's not to say we aren't looking for a LB too, though we may not end up with a new one because of budget/ffp constraints. But we will eventually upgrade LB, and have a better squad over a few windows. It's a more sustainable approach to long term success, which we have the luxury of adpoting after years of scrambling and coming up with stop gap solutions.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #205 on: September 22, 2020, 02:57:52 AM »
Itís trite to say, but this time last season thereís no way weíre winning that. We should have scored more but we found a way to win. Konsa, Martinez and Luiz all excellent, the other new additions all did well too.

We all know we need more quality - the bench didnít look too inspiring and creativity wise weíre overly reliant on Jack but thereís still time. So far itís been an excellent window - weíve done everything we had to do; striker, add pace, sort goalkeeper position & resolve Jack situation. Now we need to add the finishing touches - I suspect theyíll be the different between bottom five/six and mid table.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #206 on: September 22, 2020, 06:56:26 AM »
Having looked at Wilder's 9 minute post match whinge I've lost a bit of respect for the man.  He sees Egans "tussle" with Oli as 50/50.  Yes Oli has hands on but only because Egan is clearly pulling him back - what else is he supposed to do.  Was it certain Oli would have got to the ball before the keeper - not sure but as soon as pulls him back the answers no so its a foul. 

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« Reply #207 on: September 22, 2020, 07:14:03 AM »
Thought about the game in the cold light of this morning, and I think it was very similar to the last 4 or 5 games of last season. In terms of the result largely being based on defensive solidity. Difference I suppose is expectation, whereas post lockdown we looked like relegation certs so it was more of a pleasant surprise that weíd learnt how to defend. Whereas pre season with new signings there is the hope of free flowing attacking football.
On the whole I like the look of the defense, even Targett, despite reservations. Cash looks good, Smith obviously doesnít fancy Guilbert for whatever reason. Martinez fantastic debut.
I think we do need to have a bit more creativity up the field and hopefully Traore will help with this. Watkins has a tough night but looks to me like he knows how to run the line, something Wesley was only starting to slowly pick up by Xmas.
Iíve said on another thread pre season I think we need another centre midfielder. Not because I suddenly think McGinn is championship, as I just donít buy that at all, just out of form after a really bad injury, I also really like connors character and commitment. But we need the option of not playing one of them.
Despite a dogged performance, heavily influenced by the oppositions tactics after the sending off, Iím optimistic.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #208 on: September 22, 2020, 07:14:36 AM »
I thought it was a good result. Our midfield looked rusty, whilst i still worry that a Sheffield United attack cut us open quite so easily for the penalty. Konsa was out of position and the cover just didn't stop the attack, which came from our corner.

Also thought the timing of the switch between Davis and Conor helped create our goal. For the first [only?] time in the match the Sheff United players didnt pick up properly allowing the Konsa at the back post to take advantage. The extra man in the box caused the problems and the overload, Grealish or Hourine usually holds the 18 yard line at corners whilst Davis was in and around the penalty spot.

A game we probably wouldn't have seen out last year, with a well timed tactical switch. I hope it bodes well for the season...       

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Re: Aston Villa 1-0 Sheffield United Post Match Thread
« Reply #209 on: September 22, 2020, 07:17:51 AM »
Having looked at Wilder's 9 minute post match whinge I've lost a bit of respect for the man.  He sees Egans "tussle" with Oli as 50/50.  Yes Oli has hands on but only because Egan is clearly pulling him back - what else is he supposed to do.  Was it certain Oli would have got to the ball before the keeper - not sure but as soon as pulls him back the answers no so its a foul. 

They've lost 6 league games on the bounce. 7 games in all competitions. He's feeling pressure for the first time.

 


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