Quote from: Damo70 on September 21, 2020, 10:47:04 AMI would say we were rudderless to an extent from the day Randy gave up on us until our current owners took over. We actually got off lightly in the end regarding the Dr Tony reign. It could have set us back years or even finished us.I'm loathe to curse it, but we may have decent owners for the first time since forever. Going back you've got Mr Shitty Shoes, Randy who just gave up, had money but couldn't tie his own shoelaces, Corner Shop Doug, the dodgy Bendalls, Doug again although slightly better on and then you're into revolutions and Town Halls, because the club had been run into the ground for decades.
I would say we were rudderless to an extent from the day Randy gave up on us until our current owners took over. We actually got off lightly in the end regarding the Dr Tony reign. It could have set us back years or even finished us.
It'll never be 'our' club again; it will always be run according to the whims and ideas of unaccountable, rich men. The best we can hope is that their ideas coincidence with ours.
Quote from: Marlon From Bearwood on September 21, 2020, 09:35:59 AMI think it’s part of my natural Brummie / Villa fan inbuilt pessimism that I feel that due to us having several weeks of consistent good news (exciting signings, great pre season results, Jack’s new contract), something bad must surely be around the corner! My other half is a pessimist (understandably since she's wound up with me) and it does my head in. You're no better off if, when the shit hits the fan, you thought it might in advance.
I think it’s part of my natural Brummie / Villa fan inbuilt pessimism that I feel that due to us having several weeks of consistent good news (exciting signings, great pre season results, Jack’s new contract), something bad must surely be around the corner!
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on September 21, 2020, 10:19:41 AMQuote from: Marlon From Bearwood on September 21, 2020, 09:35:59 AMI think it’s part of my natural Brummie / Villa fan inbuilt pessimism that I feel that due to us having several weeks of consistent good news (exciting signings, great pre season results, Jack’s new contract), something bad must surely be around the corner! My other half is a pessimist (understandably since she's wound up with me) and it does my head in. You're no better off if, when the shit hits the fan, you thought it might in advance.I’m working on it. I actually think we’re going to win 3-1 tonight!
OK, so the last ten years didn’t happen and people weren’t singing We want our Villa back?
Quote from: robbo1874 on September 21, 2020, 07:14:48 AMOK, so the last ten years didn’t happen and people weren’t singing We want our Villa back? I wasn’t tying to be confrontational. I genuinely never understood it when people would say that. The club like any close relationship is ours unless we wish to end it. No owner or ownership group or manager or player(s) will ever change or deny us that. These owners (and of course this manager and this team captain) appear to get it and understand what we want and that feels great. But no different to how I imagine Wolves fans feel about their owners or Leeds fans do about their current situation. But in truth the club never left us.
a struggle between optimism and pessimism
Quote from: robbo1874 on September 21, 2020, 07:14:48 AMOK, so the last ten years didn’t happen and people weren’t singing We want our Villa back? Maybe you were. Like TV said, it was always here.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 21, 2020, 11:16:29 AMIt'll never be 'our' club again; it will always be run according to the whims and ideas of unaccountable, rich men. The best we can hope is that their ideas coincidence with ours.For me it felt like 'our club' when Dean Smith and Jack Grealish were holding up the play off trophy.