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Offline brontebilly

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1230 on: August 11, 2022, 11:48:47 AM »
An infuriating player. Loads of ability 13 (G&A) in 36 games in his first season with us! But far too often he sold Cash out defensively down the right side. Just think he lacks the mentality to be a top player, regularly booting the ball across the pitch, limping off far too often after a bit of a kick....but thought there would be a lot better takers for him than a Turkish club.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1231 on: August 11, 2022, 11:49:48 AM »
He brought a bit of excitement but not often enough. Not consistent enough for where we want to be, but, we ainít there yet!

He's more consistent than Ashley Young, who is our current first choice wide sub.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1232 on: August 11, 2022, 11:50:25 AM »
I think I remember reading somewhere that income tax in Turkey is 7%, which makes it an attractive destination for players.

Edit: a quick Google tells me that this is total bollocks.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1233 on: August 11, 2022, 11:51:45 AM »
Theoretically, but offset by Turkish clubs' tendency not to bother paying players at all.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1234 on: August 11, 2022, 12:25:45 PM »
Yes, we've sold a few now to Turkish clubs (Trez, Samatta, Bert). Is there more money in the game there amongst the top clubs compared to France/Germany (once you take-out PSG and Bayern)?

Signings of moderately decent players no longer cutting-it in the PL or former top players in their 30s tend to get those incredible Turkish welcomes by thousands of fans (remember when Vassell signed for a club over there?! The poor chap was spooked)

Is there a strong element of the clubs' owners almost doing it to curry favour from the fans and let an elaborate show deflect from the reality or what's the craic?

I'm sure The Athletic or someone has done an article on it, just strikes me as curious. And of course a lot of these players don't seem to stay that long which I'm not sure is down to their performances or the club realising that they are over-stretching themselves financially on PL-type salaries.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1235 on: August 11, 2022, 12:31:45 PM »
Yes, we've sold a few now to Turkish clubs (Trez, Samatta, Bert). Is there more money in the game there amongst the top clubs compared to France/Germany (once you take-out PSG and Bayern)?

Signings of moderately decent players no longer cutting-it in the PL or former top players in their 30s tend to get those incredible Turkish welcomes by thousands of fans (remember when Vassell signed for a club over there?! The poor chap was spooked)

Is there a strong element of the clubs' owners almost doing it to curry favour from the fans and let an elaborate show deflect from the reality or what's the craic?

I'm sure The Athletic or someone has done an article on it, just strikes me as curious. And of course a lot of these players don't seem to stay that long which I'm not sure is down to their performances or the club realising that they are over-stretching themselves financially on PL-type salaries.

Well Trez was signed from a Turkish club so he might like it over there, and of course it's much closer to Egypt his home country. Samatta is also a Muslim, so perhaps playing in a Muslim country appealed to him?

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1236 on: August 11, 2022, 12:39:16 PM »
You'd have thought with 5 subs he'd be an ideal player to bring on when needing goals. That said, a reported £80k a week, injury issues and inconsistency are probably why they want to move him on when he's down to 2 years left. I was a bit surprised to see that in the games he started he only finished 7 league games.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1237 on: August 11, 2022, 01:06:32 PM »
A fabulously talented footballer but unfortunately simply made of glass - almost every trip to play International football resulted in returning with yet another injury.

Big wages and long injuries means he is surplus i am afraid

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1238 on: August 11, 2022, 01:16:54 PM »
I like Bert, bags of skill who can pull off some audacious moments to get you off your seat but also fails to track back and plays the odd cross field pass to the opposition.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1239 on: August 11, 2022, 01:30:12 PM »
He is undoubtedly talented, but he's unfortunately not consistent or reliable to any great degree.

That Albion goal, though, absolute top level. I could watch that on loop for a day and still not get bored.

Yes. Absolutely.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1240 on: August 11, 2022, 02:16:19 PM »
His career at our club may ultimately be short and insignificant but I've enjoyed his highlights immensely. He's a Renaissance artist working on a job with painters and decorators.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1241 on: August 11, 2022, 02:21:55 PM »
If Traore is this supreme talent we cannot possibly let go of, then how come the only taker is a club like Basaksehir in a third rate league?

It's not even a proper football club, just a vanity project by Erdogan and his hangers-on.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1242 on: August 11, 2022, 06:57:43 PM »
Plenty of comments saying we should keep Bert because he could be a game changing substitute. Problem is, I can't remember him having been one. (Happy to be cotradicted)

He's on our books at a value if £8.5m, so if we sell him for more, that's a positive for FFP and vice versa.

If as it appears, he goes on loan with an option to buy, then in 12mnths his book value will be £4.25m. He's on £4 16m a year, so even if we psy half, that's still a couple of million off the wage bill.

Apparently we'll have to pay something because the Turks can't/won't pay the full amount.

SG obviously doesn't rate him - better to move out - he's a non-performer who flatters to deceive.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1243 on: August 11, 2022, 07:11:27 PM »
No point in keeping him. SELL SELL SELL.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1244 on: August 11, 2022, 07:15:34 PM »
If Traore is this supreme talent we cannot possibly let go of, then how come the only taker is a club like Basaksehir in a third rate league?

It's not even a proper football club, just a vanity project by Erdogan and his hangers-on.

No one is calling him a supreme talent though, what people are saying is that he has it in him to do some truly magical things, I think anyone who watches some of the goals he scored in his first season or the complete pisstake he did to De Bruyne and doesn't see that he's capable of things beyond most players is kidding themselves. He's not consistent, has had injury problems and, I suspect, is a bit too much of a free spirit for Gerrard so he probably doesn't fit in with where we are now but I'll miss him and will always think that if he could fix the consistency and fitness issues he'd be a zlatan style maverick touring all the top teams in Europe being brilliant but never really settling anywhere.

 


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