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Offline OCD

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1185 on: August 02, 2022, 06:19:31 PM »
Moving them on is rarely that simple, particularly in a market outside the PL that seems depressed. The club are going to be hosed financially on these players with all kinds of FFP implications.]

Based on the published purchase prices when they signed for us, salaries and time left on their contracts, their written down FFP book values and wages are:


Anwar El Ghazi -  either 2m or 1.125m, depending on whether we paid 8m or 4.5m for him.
Bertrand Traore - 9.5m
Fred Guilbert - 975k
Marvelous Nakamba - 4.4m.
Carney Chuckwuemeka - 0

Total FFP book value: 16.875m / 16m.

Sell for an aggregate amount of more than this and we'll increase our FFP headroom

Wages:
El Ghazi - 1.976m
Traore - 3.275m
Guilbert - 2.08m
Nakamba - 1.69m
Chuckwuemeka - 125k

Total  annual wage bill: 9.146m

Depending on the source you use, between 15m and 20m for Chukwuemeka. Pure profit, brilliant for FFP and a benefit of investing in youth. That and bringing them through to the first team like we're seeing with J Ramsey, Iroegbunam, Kessler-Hayden, Archer as the most ready for first team football and the likes of A Ramsey, Chrisene and Feeney as the next most ready and signing up other young talents to follow in their footsteps to either fill first team spaces that would otherwise normally be expensively filled or sold on for profit.

We can either look backwards at players who helped us to stay up and establish ourselves back in the league who now no longer have a place in the squad because we've moved on. Or we can look at the players we're either buying or bringing through.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1186 on: August 02, 2022, 10:37:24 PM »
125k a year? That's less than Boris Johnson! Poor Chuck, no wonder he wanted out.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1187 on: August 03, 2022, 09:03:07 AM »
... not letting them train with the first team squad is surely verging on workplace bullying. Can you imagine it in any other industry? Hardly attracts many prospective buyers if the player has spent X weeks training with kids either.

The current head coach doesn't fancy them fair enough but the club should be big enough to insist upon Gerrard that they be included as senior pros in first team training. As a highly paid head coach it's his job to deal with the 'clutter' at the training ground ...
Sorry, but this just doesn't sound right to me. When the club has formalised its first team squad - 25 players plus the under-age additions - no coach would want the distraction of surplus players hanging around who know that their time at the club is up. No coach would want to include players in his tactical briefings who might be playing against the club in the near-future. No coach would want players around 'poisoning the well' - bringing morale down.
So, although you are of course right that in most industries managers are honour-bound to include all staff members in the workplace, top-level football is virtually unique in respect of individual risk-reward.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1188 on: August 10, 2022, 12:54:23 PM »
Anyone heard anything about him signing for a Turkish club?

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1189 on: August 10, 2022, 01:33:53 PM »
Anyone heard anything about him signing for a Turkish club?

Nope - have you?

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1190 on: August 10, 2022, 01:39:33 PM »
Anyone heard anything about him signing for a Turkish club?
Only the twitter rumours that he's signing for Basaksehir after agreeing personal terms. Seems to be being widely retweeted but i obviously have no idea on the reliability of the source(s)

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1191 on: August 10, 2022, 01:44:33 PM »
I don't understand why we are desperate to get rid of him when Philogene and Aaron Ramsey are out on loan. If one of Bailey, Buendia or Coutinho gets injured are we really relying on Ashley fucking Young? Or is this a further sign he has no intention of playing those three together? Even if you pick two of them you still need a better option than Young on the bench.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1192 on: August 10, 2022, 02:23:33 PM »
Or he's buying Ryan Kent late in the window to play wide.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1193 on: August 10, 2022, 02:34:17 PM »
Or he's buying Ryan Kent late in the window to play wide.

We need his brother, Clarke  :)

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1194 on: August 10, 2022, 03:15:54 PM »
I don't understand why we are desperate to get rid of him when Philogene and Aaron Ramsey are out on loan. If one of Bailey, Buendia or Coutinho gets injured are we really relying on Ashley fucking Young? Or is this a further sign he has no intention of playing those three together? Even if you pick two of them you still need a better option than Young on the bench.


We've still got Anwar- although he does seem to be fading to grey as each day passes

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1195 on: August 10, 2022, 03:35:39 PM »
I love how skilful Traore is, and I love how he can create a goal out of thin air. The only issue is he has never shown it consistently for us. Last season should have been massive for him, but too many injuries got in the way of him settling and progressing.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1196 on: August 10, 2022, 03:51:48 PM »
I love how skilful Traore is, and I love how he can create a goal out of thin air. The only issue is he has never shown it consistently for us. Last season should have been massive for him, but too many injuries got in the way of him settling and progressing.
he was injured in the run up to the African Nations and then came back and was juried again.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1197 on: August 10, 2022, 03:59:54 PM »
Or he's buying Ryan Kent late in the window to play wide.

We need his brother, Clarke  :)

I'll assume that was a deliberate nod to those that had trouble spelling Ciaran Clark's name correctly.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1198 on: August 10, 2022, 04:17:45 PM »
Twitter has him signed for Basaksehir, Turkey.

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Re: Bertrand Traore - Signed
« Reply #1199 on: August 10, 2022, 04:29:52 PM »
Good luck to Bert in Turkey.
I enjoyed watching him play in the season we finished 11th under Smith (though his attempted volleys from throw-ins used to make me nervous)
A skilful free-spirited player.
All the best!

 


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