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Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5160 on: April 24, 2024, 11:35:50 AM »
Ollie Watkins now has 31 non-penalty goal contributions in the Premier League this season (19 goals, 12 assists).

Here is a select list of players who have never achieved more than 30 non-penalty goal contributions in a single Premier League season.

Frank Lampard
Sergio AgŁero
Romelu Lukaku
Eden Hazard
Wayne Rooney
Bruno Fernandes
Son Heung-min
Carlos Tevez
Dwight Yorke
Ruud van Nistelrooy
Michael Owen
Fernando Torres
Ian Wright
Diego Costa
Dennis Bergkamp

Taken from Twitter/X. I haven't bothered to check it.
Sky Sports News this morning discussing this season's goal involvements. Here's their list: Palmer 29 Saka 22 Foden 21 Bowen 20. Ollie didn't get a mention. The list went down as far as Grealish 4.

Were they talking about just midfielders though rather than strikers?

Not that i'm defending Sky and their biased shite. I'm fucking them off in a couple of months anyway, the fucking fucks.

EDIT*sorry just noticed others had asked the same.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2024, 11:39:44 AM by Clark W Griswold »

Offline AV84

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5161 on: April 24, 2024, 11:47:07 AM »
The whole thing's hilarious. The most goal contributions in the league, the second most in all of Europe's big five behind a certain Harry Kane, and England are so addicted to the vision of the Target Man that they might bring someone on Brentford's bench instead.

(I mean, of course I think Toney's good. It just looks incomprehensible on the face of it.)

It's funny that since he was annointed for scoring a penalty against Belgium he now can't get a game for Brentford.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Brentford missed Mbueno more this season when he was injured than they missed Toney when he was banned. If I was a club looking for an attacking player in the summer I'd be looking at Wissa or Mbueno before I'd be willing to fork over whatever stupid price they'll want for Toney.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5162 on: April 24, 2024, 11:49:49 AM »
Apparently, they want £35-40m for Toney because he's entering the last 12 months of his contract. But people are also saying he wants £250k a week, which is putting clubs off.

He hasn't scored since Feb, and now isn't getting on the pitch, so not sure what's happening in his camp.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5163 on: April 24, 2024, 11:52:56 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Brentford missed Mbueno more this season when he was injured than they missed Toney when he was banned. If I was a club looking for an attacking player in the summer I'd be looking at Wissa or Mbueno before I'd be willing to fork over whatever stupid price they'll want for Toney.
Mbueno is a super player, but isn't Diaby our man in that role?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5164 on: April 24, 2024, 11:57:15 AM »
England apparently don't play the right way to provide Watkins with a platform.

Maybe they should?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5165 on: April 24, 2024, 12:02:04 PM »
England apparently don't play the right way to provide Watkins with a platform.

Maybe they should?

The question is then, if we dropped Harry Kane into Villa's starting 11 and system, would he just turn shit?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5166 on: April 24, 2024, 12:15:02 PM »
That list looks very much like they were comparing the players likely to go to the Euros in the attacking midfielder spots.

They were. Sometimes it feels as though football fans are just looking to be offended
The list states "Goal involvements of English forwards" I can assure you that i am not easily offended. I would expect Ollie to be included in that list.

I'm with you. On Sky the other day they listed "players with top goal involvements in Europe". They didn't list Ollie. Turns out there was an asterisk with "*minimum of 20 goals scored." Yeah, makes perfect sense to list goal involvements and leave out the player with the second most due to setting an arbitrary limit on half of the metric. Twats.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5167 on: April 24, 2024, 12:27:20 PM »
Probably his best all round performance for Villa today. Was absolutely unplayable.

I get your point but I prefer the performances when he scores.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5168 on: April 24, 2024, 12:33:14 PM »
That list looks very much like they were comparing the players likely to go to the Euros in the attacking midfielder spots.

They were. Sometimes it feels as though football fans are just looking to be offended
The list states "Goal involvements of English forwards" I can assure you that i am not easily offended. I would expect Ollie to be included in that list.

I'm with you. On Sky the other day they listed "players with top goal involvements in Europe". They didn't list Ollie. Turns out there was an asterisk with "*minimum of 20 goals scored." Yeah, makes perfect sense to list goal involvements and leave out the player with the second most due to setting an arbitrary limit on half of the metric. Twats.

It is bullshit, yes. But he'll correct it before too long.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5169 on: April 24, 2024, 12:33:39 PM »
Toney's injured though/not fully fit. Despite Wissa/that little rat's best efforts, he'll start (with Mbeumo) when he's ready. Unless their coach ("the ski-instructor sleeping with one of his students") is planning for life without him.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5170 on: April 24, 2024, 01:01:20 PM »
Well there's another thing with Watkins, he's pretty much the most durable footballer I can think of.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5171 on: April 24, 2024, 01:05:36 PM »
Probably his best all round performance for Villa today. Was absolutely unplayable.

I get your point but I prefer the performances when he scores.

I'd say I don't care as long as we win. Which then made me look up our record in the league this season when he does score:

He's scored in 14 matches, out of 33 played.

Of the 19 he didn't score in, he got an assist in 5 of them, leaving 14 games he either didn't score or get an assist.

Of the 14 games he scored in, we won 11, drew 2 and lost 1.
Of the 5 games he didn't score but got an assist, we won 3, drew 1 and lost 1.
Of the games where he didn't score or assist, we won 6, drew 3 and lost 5.

All of which shows just how vital he is. When he scores, you can almost guarantee we'll win the game, and when he doesn't but gets an assist, our record is still very good. And all of that is with a defence that hasn't been nearly as good as it was last year. If he can do the same next year and the defence improves with the return of Mings, well, anything's possible.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5172 on: April 24, 2024, 01:06:00 PM »
Well there's another thing with Watkins, he's pretty much the most durable footballer I can think of.


He also didnít get an 8 month ban from the game for breaking 200+ FA betting rules, telling his own fans in a video ďFuck VillaĒ, and isnít generally a complete wanker.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5173 on: April 24, 2024, 01:10:23 PM »
There is that, yes.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5174 on: April 24, 2024, 01:47:05 PM »
Probably his best all round performance for Villa today. Was absolutely unplayable.

I get your point but I prefer the performances when he scores.

Iím sure he does too. Lack of a goal is the only reason it was a 9.9/10.

 


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