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Author Topic: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)  (Read 166974 times)

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1980 on: August 10, 2022, 09:49:03 AM »
Saunders was a different age. You need to keep at least twenty players happy now.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1981 on: August 10, 2022, 09:57:09 AM »
I seem to remember Ron Saunders falling out with crowd favourites, Andy Gray, Gidman etc.. thankfully no social media back in those days or most on here would be backing the players and not the Manager

The Manager is paid to make decisions, some the players will like, other decisions will upset a few.

Gerrard is not leaving our club, Purslow and the owners will continue to back him, if Watkins, Mings and others do not like the way they are being treated they can always ask to leave.

As much as Saunders was respected by the fans back then I can categorically state we were a very unhappy fanbase at Gray and Gidman wanting to leave, and ultimately being sold. They were two truly exceptional players. You're right though, you have to trust and back the manager in these situations.
I'd also add that Ollie Watkins is no Andy Gray.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1982 on: August 10, 2022, 01:24:46 PM »
Then i hope that Watkins rams it down Gerrards throat by actually putting in a performance and maybe a goal or 2 should do it.

Rather than just whine if that is the case

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1983 on: August 11, 2022, 02:05:22 AM »
I thought Coutino was the little genious to give our forwards the supply needed. Any central striker would suffer with the lack of.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1984 on: August 24, 2022, 09:30:30 PM »
I don't if people noticed Watkins seemed a bit annoyed to have been subbed.
Thing is no one likes being subbed but he seemed to snub Bailey.  Who looked quite surprised.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1985 on: August 24, 2022, 10:22:49 PM »
Didn't see it live, but saw a screen shot back. Players don't like being subbed, don't think it's a big deal.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1986 on: August 24, 2022, 10:29:41 PM »
Good, I want players to be annoyed at being subbed.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1987 on: August 25, 2022, 01:27:22 AM »
For me, Watkins plays better as a lone forward, chasing down lost causes and creating space for others. He does not suit the slow build up we seem to play.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1988 on: August 25, 2022, 07:57:48 AM »
He has always been a willing runner, and is regularly lauded for his work rate.

However, I've noticed that recently he is great at running/showing for the ball and working the channels, but is very poor at running with the ball at his feet, rarely taking on a defender.

Compare to Archer, that can run with the ball, take on defenders, lay off to his teammates and has great positional sense when another teammate is heading for goal/shooting.

Ollie is lacking in these areas, and I can't remember if it's recent form, or if he's always been like that.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1989 on: August 25, 2022, 08:01:50 AM »
Watkins and Ings doesn't work, never has never will, Smith tried it and gave up now we have another manager trying it. I would much rather give Cam more game time he may be ready maybe not but at least it would be a little different.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1990 on: August 25, 2022, 04:11:16 PM »
For me, Watkins plays better as a lone forward, chasing down lost causes and creating space for others. He does not suit the slow build up we seem to play.

Agreed but to be fair his interaction with other players is already much improved this season. Two assists v Everton and laid another big chance on for Ings v Bolton. But our coach doesn't seem to know if he wants to play with 1 x striker or 2. Wingers or number 10s, if we are to press from the front or step back into a defensive line. So everyone will continue to struggle until that is bedded down.

I've been impressed with him so far this season after starting first game on bench.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1991 on: August 25, 2022, 04:26:49 PM »
For me, Watkins plays better as a lone forward, chasing down lost causes and creating space for others. He does not suit the slow build up we seem to play.

Agreed but to be fair his interaction with other players is already much improved this season. Two assists v Everton and laid another big chance on for Ings v Bolton. But our coach doesn't seem to know if he wants to play with 1 x striker or 2. Wingers or number 10s, if we are to press from the front or step back into a defensive line. So everyone will continue to struggle until that is bedded down.

I've been impressed with him so far this season after starting first game on bench.

He's quite a frustrating player because I think he is capable of much more than he shows, but when you look at it as 2 starts, 2 assists and 1 goal in the league so far this season, he seems the least of our worries at the moment.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1992 on: September 01, 2022, 10:10:33 AM »
Regardless of whether we get another manager or not the effort in the first half shown by Ollie Watkins was disrespectful and just wrong.
We all know there's something wrong in the dressing room and my money is on him being one of the problems.
I work with someone who worked very closely with the Brentford squad when Oliie was there and he's the only player, during his time working there, who he said was up his own arse.
Dean Smith, according to my workmate, was the nicest man you could ever work with however.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1993 on: September 01, 2022, 10:14:01 AM »
Regardless of whether we get another manager or not the effort in the first half shown by Ollie Watkins was disrespectful and just wrong.
We all know there's something wrong in the dressing room and my money is on him being one of the problems.
I work with someone who worked very closely with the Brentford squad when Oliie was there and he's the only player, during his time working there, who he said was up his own arse.
Dean Smith, according to my workmate, was the nicest man you could ever work with however.

That seems odd, hes had nothing but praise from people at Exeter and Brentford.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1994 on: September 01, 2022, 10:14:54 AM »
It's amazing. Ollie doesn't come across like someone up his own arse. Not at all.

Much bigger problems than this apparent issue.

 


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