Quote from: PeterWithe on August 04, 2020, 04:13:06 PMQuote from: Ads on August 04, 2020, 03:40:13 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on August 04, 2020, 10:54:02 AMI think what this thread shows is that if you go back thirty years the demarcation between support in various areas of Brum was much clearer but increased social mobility has eroded that to a large extent. I also think the long running and ongoing mismanagement at Blues has seen a decline in their fan base overall.This isn't meant to be facetious, but has there ever been a time they were well run?Earliest memories are of the song about a circus in the town Terry Cooper being the clown etc. Seems they were owned by the Kumars(?) Scrap metal bods? Songs about Altrincham and Kiddie beating them in the cup.They apoear, at least on the face of it, to have been the biggest and longest running farce in English football. I think the Kumars were in the rag trade aptly enough, they owned the Mark-One brand. It was Ken Wheldon who was the tat man.Quote from: Ads on August 04, 2020, 03:40:13 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on August 04, 2020, 10:54:02 AMI think what this thread shows is that if you go back thirty years the demarcation between support in various areas of Brum was much clearer but increased social mobility has eroded that to a large extent. I also think the long running and ongoing mismanagement at Blues has seen a decline in their fan base overall.This isn't meant to be facetious, but has there ever been a time they were well run?Earliest memories are of the song about a circus in the town Terry Cooper being the clown etc. Seems they were owned by the Kumars(?) Scrap metal bods? Songs about Altrincham and Kiddie beating them in the cup.They apoear, at least on the face of it, to have been the biggest and longest running farce in English football. Around the time when Francis came through in the 70s they were doing well at a time we were really struggling. I remember their car stickers saying “Members of the First Division” obviously to emphasise the point that we weren’t.
Quote from: Ads on August 04, 2020, 03:40:13 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on August 04, 2020, 10:54:02 AMI think what this thread shows is that if you go back thirty years the demarcation between support in various areas of Brum was much clearer but increased social mobility has eroded that to a large extent. I also think the long running and ongoing mismanagement at Blues has seen a decline in their fan base overall.This isn't meant to be facetious, but has there ever been a time they were well run?Earliest memories are of the song about a circus in the town Terry Cooper being the clown etc. Seems they were owned by the Kumars(?) Scrap metal bods? Songs about Altrincham and Kiddie beating them in the cup.They apoear, at least on the face of it, to have been the biggest and longest running farce in English football. I think the Kumars were in the rag trade aptly enough, they owned the Mark-One brand. It was Ken Wheldon who was the tat man.
Quote from: Chris Smith on August 04, 2020, 10:54:02 AMI think what this thread shows is that if you go back thirty years the demarcation between support in various areas of Brum was much clearer but increased social mobility has eroded that to a large extent. I also think the long running and ongoing mismanagement at Blues has seen a decline in their fan base overall.This isn't meant to be facetious, but has there ever been a time they were well run?Earliest memories are of the song about a circus in the town Terry Cooper being the clown etc. Seems they were owned by the Kumars(?) Scrap metal bods? Songs about Altrincham and Kiddie beating them in the cup.They apoear, at least on the face of it, to have been the biggest and longest running farce in English football.
I think what this thread shows is that if you go back thirty years the demarcation between support in various areas of Brum was much clearer but increased social mobility has eroded that to a large extent. I also think the long running and ongoing mismanagement at Blues has seen a decline in their fan base overall.
Quote from: colin69 on August 03, 2020, 09:50:52 PMLived in Edgbaston from 0-11. Northfield from 11-21 and for the last 30 years Rubery. Went to Shenley Court Comprehensive 80-85 and probably due to our League and European Cup successes it was full of Villa. Worked at the Austin 1990-2005 had a good mix of fans from all the Midlands clubs with mainly good banter. Plenty of Villa fans in Rubery whatever the noses might think. I too was also at Shenley 80-85
Lived in Edgbaston from 0-11. Northfield from 11-21 and for the last 30 years Rubery. Went to Shenley Court Comprehensive 80-85 and probably due to our League and European Cup successes it was full of Villa. Worked at the Austin 1990-2005 had a good mix of fans from all the Midlands clubs with mainly good banter. Plenty of Villa fans in Rubery whatever the noses might think.
Quote from: Pat McMahon on August 03, 2020, 10:49:16 PMWe lived in Winson Green when I was born, and then shuffled out to Chasetown via Aston for a few years, then Newtown. The next spell was Great Barr - another one from Pheasey, and I consider that is where I was brought up as it was my formative years from 10-18, and my longest spell in one place.Back in the 70s and 80s Great Barr had Villa as the largest fan base, with Albion second. Blues a distant third, though a good minority came out of the woodwork in the early 80s from 2-3 school years below me, plus plastics of various shades of red. My cousins were by the Scott Arms / Hamsted and that seemed to be evenly split between Villa and Albion. One of my schools was in Aldridge and there were a good number of Wolves and Albion fans there, with the Villa fans being largely represented by us Pheasey boys. A smattering of Leeds fans too, as they were big in the early 70s.Other family were in Kingstanding and Perry Barr and they seemed purely Villa. All this is ancient history so things may have changed.I was in Cannock for the lockdown and Wolves shirts easily the majority, followed by Villa and then seemingly Liverpool and Albion.You were born in prison? Blimey! Remind me never to fall out with you.
We lived in Winson Green when I was born, and then shuffled out to Chasetown via Aston for a few years, then Newtown. The next spell was Great Barr - another one from Pheasey, and I consider that is where I was brought up as it was my formative years from 10-18, and my longest spell in one place.Back in the 70s and 80s Great Barr had Villa as the largest fan base, with Albion second. Blues a distant third, though a good minority came out of the woodwork in the early 80s from 2-3 school years below me, plus plastics of various shades of red. My cousins were by the Scott Arms / Hamsted and that seemed to be evenly split between Villa and Albion. One of my schools was in Aldridge and there were a good number of Wolves and Albion fans there, with the Villa fans being largely represented by us Pheasey boys. A smattering of Leeds fans too, as they were big in the early 70s.Other family were in Kingstanding and Perry Barr and they seemed purely Villa. All this is ancient history so things may have changed.I was in Cannock for the lockdown and Wolves shirts easily the majority, followed by Villa and then seemingly Liverpool and Albion.
Just remembered, and I've posted about this before on here, but when I was at uni in Cov I lived in Earlsdon. Down the Albany Road was a small sports shop and one day I saw in their window the home and away Villa tops from 1995/96 - the AST Computer tops. This was in 2011/12. They were on display, stretched out, for weeks. I wish I could have afforded to buy them!
‘My Dads family are all B’lose so I hate Villa’ has been a conversation stopper for many decades when talking to first Liverpool, then Man U, Chelsea and now City fans. Even if these people are still known to me I have no need to ever discuss footy with them. Although every four years I may go with the old ‘your dad’s an England fan so you support Germany or Brazil I take it?’ Always good for a reminder of their glory hunting status. Some actually do as well!
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