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Author Topic: Other Games - 2020/21  (Read 562261 times)

Offline WilliamStanding

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1725 on: September 27, 2020, 04:28:57 PM »
Within the rules, it was a pen.

The rules are the argument.

Personally I quite liked seeing Jose throw his toys, are there any left in his crib.


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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1726 on: September 27, 2020, 04:29:40 PM »
See even Bruce has called it out as utter madness. who the fuck runs with their arms by their body?

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1727 on: September 27, 2020, 04:33:35 PM »
Arguably Newcastle should have been given a penalty a few minutes before the one they were given, when a similar thing happened, also with Carroll/Dyer.

It will be interesting to see how many penalties the likes of Andy Carroll will win through dead ball kicks just slung hopeful-like into the box, when defenders will be challenging with no real hope of getting first contact on the ball. 

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1728 on: September 27, 2020, 04:35:39 PM »
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct
Handball rule....

It is an offence if a player:

deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
after the ball has touched their or a team-mate’s hand/arm, even if accidental, immediately:
scores in the opponents’ goal
creates a goal-scoring opportunity
touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:

directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger
when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body

Online Richard E

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1729 on: September 27, 2020, 04:45:09 PM »
How is it possible for a part of your own body to make your body ‘unnaturally bigger’?

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1730 on: September 27, 2020, 04:46:17 PM »
I’m not a football fan I’m an Aston Villa fan and dislike all the other teams who play the sport. On that dislike list Spurs come in at around probably 3 or 4 depending on how annoying either Liverpool or Man U are at the time.

So for me that was a tremendous decision and was slightly better than Tammy’s goal last night. They drew to a team who had no shots before that moment. The most superest of Super Sunday’s ever.

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1731 on: September 27, 2020, 04:46:24 PM »
How is it possible for a part of your own body to make your body ‘unnaturally bigger’?

I've seen some videos...

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1732 on: September 27, 2020, 04:51:07 PM »
How is it that every season they seem to find a new way to interpret the rules that completely fucks things up and produces endless farcical decisions that piss 95% of people off.

Do they have a meeting where they pour over the rule book to see what they haven't tinkered with yet and how they can apply a bizarre new adaptation to it?


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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1733 on: September 27, 2020, 04:52:32 PM »
What andrew08 said^^^

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1734 on: September 27, 2020, 04:53:02 PM »
Will a penalty be given if, as Roy Hodgson says, a player deliberately flicks the ball up onto a defenders arm? Or would the player be booked for ungentlemanly conduct?

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1735 on: September 27, 2020, 04:56:21 PM »
I never had any time for Bruce, but fair play to him for his comments on the issue.

Offline WilliamStanding

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1736 on: September 27, 2020, 05:00:42 PM »
Will a penalty be given if, as Roy Hodgson says, a player deliberately flicks the ball up onto a defenders arm? Or would the player be booked for ungentlemanly conduct?

Absolutely impossible to ever prove, there’s countless little “flicks” of the ball all over the pitch.

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1737 on: September 27, 2020, 05:01:55 PM »
It's not VAR, it's the officials interpretation of the new rule. I'll guarantee how they are applying the rule was not the intention of the rule.

Last seasons goals were chalked off for innocuous handball in the build up. Now penalties are being given for innocuous handball. Neither of which were a problem with beforehand.

Clear and obvious..... That should be the yardstick

Offline WilliamStanding

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1738 on: September 27, 2020, 05:08:45 PM »
Vardy 1-1

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Re: Other Games - 2020/21
« Reply #1739 on: September 27, 2020, 05:09:22 PM »
It's not VAR, it's the officials interpretation of the new rule. I'll guarantee how they are applying the rule was not the intention of the rule.

Last seasons goals were chalked off for innocuous handball in the build up. Now penalties are being given for innocuous handball. Neither of which were a problem with beforehand.

Clear and obvious..... That should be the yardstick

It should but "clear and obvious" in itself is subjective and it's just that, that cripples VAR in any form. It still relies on opinion, not fact, and as such it's aim to get everything right is fatally flawed.

The argument will still be raging in 10 years time but the game has been damaged by the need for precision robbing it of immediacy, drama, rhythm and most disappointingly of all that glorious moment of going fuckin' mad when you score

 


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