Johan Lange - appointed

[richtheholtender]

We all knew we needed a striker as everyone was saying Wes and Davis are shit so I'm not sure why Ings is being mentioned as a wrong signing. The problem was not getting a DCM as well as Ings. If Antonio gets crocked at West Ham then they have a problem whereas we wouldn't. Well that's assuming the likes of Watkins can get their form back but that would have been the idea. Just don't play the fuckers together.

100%

[Mister E]

..
And how about Ashley Young as well?

What's this guy doing?
...

Footy: you have been a vocal advocate of Young when he came in, suggesting he should be first choice at LB.

[Drummond]

..
And how about Ashley Young as well?

What's this guy doing?
...

Footy: you have been a vocal advocate of Young when he came in, suggesting he should be first choice at LB.

Yes, but that doesn't deflect the blame from Smith.

[Footy-Vill]

..
And how about Ashley Young as well?

What's this guy doing?
...

Footy: you have been a vocal advocate of Young when he came in, suggesting he should be first choice at LB.

Yes he should have been having seen Targett fail us
Young was hardly inspired scouting was he
I all for him and the experience I'm just wondering what Lange has brought to the table

[algy]

..
And how about Ashley Young as well?

What's this guy doing?
...

Footy: you have been a vocal advocate of Young when he came in, suggesting he should be first choice at LB.

Yes he should have been having seen Targett fail us
Young was hardly inspired scouting was he
I all for him and the experience I'm just wondering what Lange has brought to the table

Other than the myriad of highly promising players we've been hoovering up in our youth teams?

[Footy-Vill]

Well granted for sake of all lange signs
Those youth players I hope won't be forgot

[Risso]

Are the youth players under the remit of Lange? Genuine question as I don't know.

[Mister E]

Are the youth players under the remit of Lange? Genuine question as I don't know.

I doubt it, although he may have some involvement in the decision.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

In regards to the 1st team I wouldn’t be surprised if Lange was keeping his head low.
Why Buendia when we already had Traore?
Why Bailey ( a player from Germany with no experience of the PL, who more than likely is going to take 6-12 months to settle) to replace an established full international occupying the left of the front 3?
Why Tuanzebe and Young?
Why not a dcm that everyone could see we needed?
If we had got a proper dcm this could have afforded Luiz the opportunity to play further forward.
Why Sanson when we already had McGinn?
Why did he not get a proper no.10 (and perhaps one with a profile to replace the one that left)?
Ings I can understand, as we were short of a quality proven striker to complement Watkins or act as back up to him. That said getting Ings in when he did felt like a softener to supporters on the day a supposed Villa fan jumped ship.
Whatever the issues regarding Smith, Lange certainly hasn’t done him any favours. He’s brought players in as though we are currently a championship side looking for promotion or a team newly promoted to the PL instead of a team already established there for the last 2 years.
For me whatever happens re Smith, Lange should be relieved of his duties.

[Beard82]

In regards to the 1st team I wouldn’t be surprised if Lange was keeping his head low.
Why Buendia when we already had Traore?
Why Bailey ( a player from Germany with no experience of the PL, who more than likely is going to take 6-12 months to settle) to replace an established full international occupying the left of the front 3?
Why Tuanzebe and Young?
Why not a dcm that everyone could see we needed?
If we had got a proper dcm this could have afforded Luiz the opportunity to play further forward.
Why Sanson when we already had McGinn?
Why did he not get a proper no.10 (and perhaps one with a profile to replace the one that left)?
Ings I can understand, as we were short of a quality proven striker to complement Watkins or act as back up to him. That said getting Ings in when he did felt like a softener to supporters on the day a supposed Villa fan jumped ship.
Whatever the issues regarding Smith, Lange certainly hasn’t done him any favours. He’s brought players in as though we are currently a championship side looking for promotion or a team newly promoted to the PL instead of a team already established there for the last 2 years.
For me whatever happens re Smith, Lange should be relieved of his duties.

Yeah - it doesn't feel as well joined up as CP would have us believe.  I think the 3 players we signed were needed and improve the squad, and I think there is a good chance all 3 will prove a success in time, but they don't really improve the first 11 just the squad.

To me it seems that they were confident of keeping Joe, and we're looking to add a bit more strength in depth.  When it became clear he was set on leaving, they paniced and tried to do the best they could to replace him

lol - Maybe that's why the open training session seemed like such a shit show - no one had any idea what to do, as all the plans had gone out the window

[Ads]

Recruitment in the summer was good, that's why we have a very strong squad. It needs players here and there but also crucially a manager who can;

Have the players press, we're 19th in the league for this.
Have defenders remain calm and cut out errors leading to a chance at our goal, we're also 19th for this.
Set up a viable midfield structure that doesn't see players like McGinn lose it so frequently and have us carved open.
See us retain the ball, have a pattern of attacking beyond long balls from centre half and throw ins.

Etc etc. Problems are not with Lange, they're quite obviously with the manager.

[cdbearsfan]

Yep.

[ozzjim]

Watching the video of Buendia on his first day in the summer, I would be amazed if he and Tuanzebe were Not pushed for by Smith. Ings, Bailey not so sure.

[rougegorge]

If the new players had been doing well, Smith would be getting all the plaudits, so equally if they are not doing well, he has the responsibility for that.

The consensus in the media and on here was that we had made good signings in the summer. If that is true, then the manager is doing poorly.

However if the new players are not as good as we were led to believe or we led ourselves to believe, then the manager still has some culpability, not just Lange.

[edgysatsuma89]

We all knew we needed a striker as everyone was saying Wes and Davis are shit so I'm not sure why Ings is being mentioned as a wrong signing. The problem was not getting a DCM as well as Ings. If Antonio gets crocked at West Ham then they have a problem whereas we wouldn't. Well that's assuming the likes of Watkins can get their form back but that would have been the idea. Just don't play the fuckers together.

The bold bit is why Lange isn't getting grief but Smith is.

Definitely Paul, it's difficult to defend those sort of decisions.