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Offline robbo1874

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #135 on: July 13, 2020, 01:08:33 PM »
Thereís no place in society for this,especially not at our club. I think the parents, the family, if there is one need speaking to. Hopefully the kid  can learn from his mistakes.

Offline lovejoy

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #136 on: July 13, 2020, 01:22:26 PM »
I agree that the post was abhorrent and I suspect thereís more in the background of the individual than we currently know so we need to temper our knee jerk responses until the full facts come out.

On a note of balance and perspective, I often see pretty outrageous posts on Twitter but none of them make backpage headlines or the attention this has got.

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #137 on: July 13, 2020, 01:25:02 PM »
I agree that the post was abhorrent and I suspect thereís more in the background of the individual than we currently know so we need to temper our knee jerk responses until the full facts come out.

On a note of balance and perspective, I often see pretty outrageous posts on Twitter but none of them make backpage headlines or the attention this has got.

It deserves all the attention it's got. It was vile, abusive and there was no need for it.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #138 on: July 13, 2020, 02:16:40 PM »
Obviously you are entitled to your belief.
Iíve tried to acknowledge epigentics is starting to acknowledge there are some nature factors in inherited trauma responses, so not argued strictly purely nurture.

There doesnít to me seem to be a coherent logic to your argument however, beyond this still exists, therefore it must be what I think it is.

As for radically combatting racism, I suppose some of us hope we have seen a bit more empowerment to challenge the status quo (and stuff within ourselves, certainty within myself) of late with the BLM resurgence.

There are certainly shared concerns from me: re increased divided and fractured society.

If you are going to compare the Daily Mail & Guardian readers, I think you have to compare what they are reading/conditioned by - of course self selecting by what we expose ourself to.   

Iíll end with this question and answer.








You won't get any argument from me on that but for every one of them you'll  have a labour supporting, Remain voting, BLM advocating guardian reader who blamed the jews for losing the election and celebrated when the jewish chronicle got into trouble in April. Views I heard both on the guardian and twitter. On another forum I had an argument with a university lecturer (yes, god help us, they teach our kids) where he was convinced the whole jewish labour racism thing was a Zionist far right plot to destroy the labour party. As I said, two sides of the same coin. I must admit to a guilty secret of having both a Daily Mail and Guardian comments account at one stage just so I could troll their wafer-thin ideological beliefs and their narrow tick-boxes of opinions which classify you as "one of us" or "one of them". In the end I knocked it on the head because after a while these echo-boxes of narrow opinion start to rub off on you and damage the soul.

Anyway, enough. That's my last word on any of this. (Promise).

Offline darren woolley

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #139 on: July 13, 2020, 02:25:20 PM »
Totally disgusting things to say and do.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2020, 10:04:02 AM by darren woolley »

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #140 on: July 13, 2020, 02:33:37 PM »
You won't get any argument from me on that but for every one of them you'll  have a labour supporting, Remain voting, BLM advocating guardian reader who blamed the jews for losing the election

I bet you any amount of money that you wouldn't.

Offline lovejoy

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #141 on: July 13, 2020, 02:41:30 PM »
This sounds like "there are bad dudes on both sides".

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #142 on: July 13, 2020, 02:55:16 PM »
You won't get any argument from me on that but for every one of them you'll  have a labour supporting, Remain voting, BLM advocating guardian reader who blamed the jews for losing the election

I bet you any amount of money that you wouldn't.

I'm sure that he will be back in a short while showing us full evidence to the effect.  Or maybe not.

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #143 on: July 13, 2020, 03:00:29 PM »
Marogyles has volunteered herself, so there's one crank that meets Sickbeggar's description at least. Not sure about the rest of his scale though.

Offline brian green

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #144 on: July 13, 2020, 03:01:26 PM »
I will cover that bet and double it.  I have been  Labour party member for sixty years and I have never met a racist member of the Party.

Offline brian green

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #145 on: July 13, 2020, 03:04:27 PM »
Tories and Brexit members spouting racism and xenobhobia? I have met four today and it is only 3 o'clock.

Offline brian green

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #146 on: July 13, 2020, 03:07:30 PM »
In fairness to my Tory friends, I have been forward buying of taters.  Fertile ground for social cannibals.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #147 on: July 13, 2020, 03:07:40 PM »
You won't get any argument from me on that but for every one of them you'll  have a labour supporting, Remain voting, BLM advocating guardian reader who blamed the jews for losing the election

I bet you any amount of money that you wouldn't.

I'm sure that he will be back in a short while showing us full evidence to the effect.  Or maybe not.

We're way off topic here but probably the latter - https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-antisemitism-political-parties - that largely dispels the first 2 of those claims. It's shame no one has stats to show AS amongst BLM or guardian raeders compared to general population because I'm fairly sure they'd show a similar spread. On top of that even people he's targeting (and I fit pretty closely in his demographic) don't 'blame the jews for losing the election'.

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #148 on: July 13, 2020, 03:11:04 PM »
Apart from the obvious condemnation, the pisser in all this is that it's us again. I don't know why, but we seem to get more than our fair share of these accusations.

Offline brian green

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Re: Racist Scumbag Villa "Supporter"
« Reply #149 on: July 13, 2020, 03:57:23 PM »
I suspect that being critical of an establishment figure, as Aston Villa are, gives an added salaciousness to any story like having a vicar in a sex scandal.  It is the cross we bear for being what we are.  One of the founders of the beautiful game.

 


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