So as an experiment I asked my 13 year old daughter if she had heard of that c word. She thought I was referring to cocoon and definitely has never heard of the word. She’s bright as well.
I don't agree. When i was 5, and half the school were picking on the kid with learning difficulties and bright ginger hair, I really don't think all their parents or older siblings had taught them to pick on gingers with learning difficulties. It's instinct Imo but no, we can't be animals, we're better than that.
well you can only go from personal experience. In my 50 years i've seen whites being racist about blacks, whites being racist about asians, asians being racist about blacks, blacks being racist about asians. asians being racist about asians . whites and asians being racist about jews. blacks and asians being racist about whites. Seems pretty across the board to my mind.
well you can only go from personal experience. In my 50 years i've seen whites being racist about blacks, whites being racist about asians, asians being racist about blacks, asians being racist about backs. asians being racist about asians . whites and asians being racist about jews. blacks and asians being racist about whites. Seems pretty across the board to my mind.
there is no hierarchy in racism to my mind. It's as shitty to everyone whether you live in a country where the majority or establishment is white or black or asian. The point i'm making is its there to start with whatever your social conditioning. To blame an upturn in white racism on brexit or the tories is daft. I've heard some batshit crazy reasons why asians or blacks are subhuman by whites, blacks and asians (and i'm sure if i wasn't white i would have heard similar reasons why whites are subhuman). Its instinct, we kid ourselves we're anything other than apes with pretensions, and until we recognise that fact, the best that's gonna happen is no-one will say it, but will still think it.
Quote from: sickbeggar on July 12, 2020, 11:24:42 PMwell you can only go from personal experience. In my 50 years i've seen whites being racist about blacks, whites being racist about asians, asians being racist about blacks, asians being racist about backs. asians being racist about asians . whites and asians being racist about jews. blacks and asians being racist about whites. Seems pretty across the board to my mind.I’m not quite sure what your point/logic is here, but I think it may miss the point of systemic oppression, majority influence etc. I could equally cite examples of every race not being racist to every other race. My 12 month old is copying my behaviour now. We start shaping our offspring young. My response before I started reading the rest hasn’t changed, which was: no. You can go from things *other* than your own experience. You can talk to others and learn about *their* experience.
Quote from: sickbeggar on July 12, 2020, 11:48:23 PMthere is no hierarchy in racism to my mind. It's as shitty to everyone whether you live in a country where the majority or establishment is white or black or asian. The point i'm making is its there to start with whatever your social conditioning. To blame an upturn in white racism on brexit or the tories is daft. I've heard some batshit crazy reasons why asians or blacks are subhuman by whites, blacks and asians (and i'm sure if i wasn't white i would have heard similar reasons why whites are subhuman). Its instinct, we kid ourselves we're anything other than apes with pretensions, and until we recognise that fact, the best that's gonna happen is no-one will say it, but will still think it.Your ideas take away any personal responsibility for racist behaviour and societal institutional racism that clearly exists and is well documented. If following your ideas then racism is a natural human behavioural instinct. I’m afraid without getting personal because I don’t know you, but your excusing racist behaviour.
Quote from: purpletrousers on July 12, 2020, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on July 12, 2020, 11:24:42 PMwell you can only go from personal experience. In my 50 years i've seen whites being racist about blacks, whites being racist about asians, asians being racist about blacks, asians being racist about backs. asians being racist about asians . whites and asians being racist about jews. blacks and asians being racist about whites. Seems pretty across the board to my mind.I’m not quite sure what your point/logic is here, but I think it may miss the point of systemic oppression, majority influence etc. I could equally cite examples of every race not being racist to every other race. My 12 month old is copying my behaviour now. We start shaping our offspring young. My response before I started reading the rest hasn’t changed, which was: no. You can go from things *other* than your own experience. You can talk to others and learn about *their* experience.ha, i've just listed whites being racists against other races and i'm not taking others experience into account? Quite the opposite to my mind.. I mean i would have to be friends with these other races to hear them being racist surely, or do people randomly spout racist stuff people they don't know? Not my experience.
I have never heard anyone describe “whites” as sub-humans.