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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #75 on: July 05, 2020, 07:29:09 PM »
I feel if we'd shown as much organisation and effort to close space throughout our previous away games, we would be a lot better off.

I thought we posed them problems hitting the space in beyond but lack the quality in the final ball. Trez disappoints and we are massively behind the quality they could bring on.

We made it tough for them and they had to work very hard. Its points more than performances we need, but I don't think we're capable of the former without the later.

Hard to be too critical, they had won 23 league games at gome on the spin. They got behind our full backs twice and sadly once was with Taylor for the goal. Not overly critical of the 2nd as our midfield had pushed 10 yards further up and they broke beyond Dougie for the first time- we were pushing.

The players need to take some belief from that performance.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #76 on: July 05, 2020, 07:29:19 PM »
Smith should've gone long ago, but admittedly, it was by and large one of the few reasonable away performances this season.

However,  whilst Liverpool can bring on Wijnaldum, Firmino and Henderson we bring on Vassilev, Jota and Samatta.

Since we restarted, Smith has focused entirely on trying not to lose or not to concede too many, but tightening up the defence is all too little too late, and in the the 5 games so far there has barely been a threat up top.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #77 on: July 05, 2020, 07:29:31 PM »
I think the manager’s confidence has taken just as big a knock as that of the players. Which is why he’s reactive in his substitutions. For all Smith’s defenders are coming out to say the criticism is over reactive, Bruce (and others) would be getting hounded for the performances the team are currently putting in; in a relegation battle!

The winning run last season masks the performances since Leeds at home just before Christmas 2019. If Smith can get us out of the championship on a short winning run, he could probably do it with more time with the much of the same players following a rebuild.

That being said, what he’s got to work with is very limited and I don’t trust Suso to spend the money we get from the likely firesale. I can’t agree with those saying that Suso might do better with more money (better calibre of players, etc). How is the reward for signing players (the majority of whom) look to have decreased in value, to spend even more money?!?? That these players might ‘make it’ in time (not with Villa  if they do). We’ve been doing ‘jam tomorrow’ for a decade. And where has it got us? Villa are not (currently) the size of club that can spend over £100m and say “better luck with the next £100m.” It’s failed premier league thinking. Norwich are going down with more of a fight having pocketed a kings ransom.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #78 on: July 05, 2020, 07:29:32 PM »
Did Smith play Reina at Anfield for sentimental reasons?
I'd have thought it was because Nyland looks like he's low on confidence.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #79 on: July 05, 2020, 07:31:11 PM »
Davis was utterly abysmal.  A complete non-striker. Every game we have at least one player you don't realise is on the pitch until half time.  So many games where it's like we're playing with ten men.
Davis is nowhere near good enough and having to play our way out of a relegation dogfight with this young lad upfront is absolute damnation of Pitarch and Purslow's management of our club.

True. But then we went out and bought a striker and he can’t get into the side over a kid who is horribly short of the required quality at this level. Why does Dean Smith think Keinan Davis is a better option in a relegation fight than a more established and significantly better footballer in Samatta?

I wonder whether there are internal wranglings going on here between Smith and Pitarch.  Davis is shit, Samatta is absolutely no better, but at least he has scored a couple of goals.  Is Smith sending a message to Purslow and the owners about the overall lack of quality and by going for Davis over Samatta, he is saying that we have wasted the Samatta money?   Significantly better footballer though TV, never!

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #81 on: July 05, 2020, 07:34:51 PM »
Is Smith sending a message to Purslow and the owners about the overall lack of quality and by going for Davis over Samatta, he is saying that we have wasted the Samatta money?   
If the answer to that is yes - and I don't believe it is - then Dean should be sacked immediately.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #82 on: July 05, 2020, 07:35:54 PM »
Did Smith play Reina at Anfield for sentimental reasons?

Nope, he played because Nyland has been terrible since restart, putting aside the non-goal vs Sheff U & the throw out to Wolves Jota he has fumbled virtually every ball that has come near him - completely with Dean to change him today.   

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #83 on: July 05, 2020, 07:41:37 PM »
Expected to lose. We weren't atrocious. The worst thing is watching two old Brummie Red school pals on Facebook giving it the casual: "3 points is 3 points. The spark needs to be reignited though. Definitely need Bobby on from the start too."


30 years of hurt guy? I don't know how you cope.
That's him.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #84 on: July 05, 2020, 07:44:13 PM »
Why does Dean Smith think Keinan Davis is a better option in a relegation fight than a more established and significantly better footballer in Samatta?
Basically because he doesn't know what he's doing.  He lost control of it all some time ago.

Yeah it’s an increasingly weird decision.

Samatta the seasoned international and far greater goal threat dropped for the non scoring Davis.

Presumably it means the manager doesn’t think the striker we bought in January, who was quite likely to be our only striker for the rest of the season, is any good.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #85 on: July 05, 2020, 07:46:15 PM »
Expected to lose. We weren't atrocious. The worst thing is watching two old Brummie Red school pals on Facebook giving it the casual: "3 points is 3 points. The spark needs to be reignited though. Definitely need Bobby on from the start too."


30 years of hurt guy? I don't know how you cope.
That's him.

We only want our team to get 3 points every game. It just stands to reason.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #86 on: July 05, 2020, 07:46:24 PM »
Why does Dean Smith think Keinan Davis is a better option in a relegation fight than a more established and significantly better footballer in Samatta?
Basically because he doesn't know what he's doing.  He lost control of it all some time ago.

Yeah it’s an increasingly weird decision.

Samatta the seasoned international and far greater goal threat dropped for the non scoring Davis.

Presumably it means the manager doesn’t think the striker we bought in January, who was quite likely to be our only striker for the rest of the season, is any good.
If Dean thinks Davis carries more goal threat than Samatta then his judgement is as bad as Suso's.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2020, 07:47:42 PM »
Why does Dean Smith think Keinan Davis is a better option in a relegation fight than a more established and significantly better footballer in Samatta?
Basically because he doesn't know what he's doing.  He lost control of it all some time ago.

Yeah it’s an increasingly weird decision.

Samatta the seasoned international and far greater goal threat dropped for the non scoring Davis.

Presumably it means the manager doesn’t think the striker we bought in January, who was quite likely to be our only striker for the rest of the season, is any good.

It’s a choice between a bloke who’s scored one Premier League goal for us and a bloke who’s scored no Premier League goals for us.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #88 on: July 05, 2020, 07:51:07 PM »
It’s a choice between a bloke who’s scored one Premier League goal for us and a bloke who’s scored no Premier League goals for us.
Or to put it another way, a choice between a bloke who has scored 175 career goals and a bloke who's scored 4.

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Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #89 on: July 05, 2020, 07:54:35 PM »
We should appeal to the FA. The playing of Song 2 after a goal has to be a punishable offence.

 


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