Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 06, 2020, 04:21:22 PMEvery club in the Championship had loan players last season. Presumably they were all in false positions, or is this something that only affects the Villa?I don’t care about the others Dave. I only care about us. What cannot be denied is we won promotion on Tammys goals. Then we lost him and we don’t look like scoring again this season. We look certs for relegation which I’ll argue that we wouldn’t be if Tammy was our number 9. Back to the name of this thread ”where did it all go wrong” losing Tammy is high on my list. I don’t like loans for that reason. We won promotion due to another clubs player.
Every club in the Championship had loan players last season. Presumably they were all in false positions, or is this something that only affects the Villa?
Quote from: Allan C on July 06, 2020, 05:40:16 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 06, 2020, 04:21:22 PMEvery club in the Championship had loan players last season. Presumably they were all in false positions, or is this something that only affects the Villa?I don’t care about the others Dave. I only care about us. What cannot be denied is we won promotion on Tammys goals. Then we lost him and we don’t look like scoring again this season. We look certs for relegation which I’ll argue that we wouldn’t be if Tammy was our number 9. Back to the name of this thread ”where did it all go wrong” losing Tammy is high on my list. I don’t like loans for that reason. We won promotion due to another clubs player. And if we were the only club in the Championship not to use loan players, and as a result finished twelfth in perpetuity, what would you say then?
If we’re solely looking at this season I would point out the dropped points at home to Burnley. They huffed and puffed finally got ahead and the blew it like 90 seconds later. Them 2 points would be invaluable now.
The one that broke my heart was the stupid defeat by Bournemouth at home. Full house, VP rocking, back in the Premiership still euphoric from the Wembley play off final. An exprienced, mature England international goalkeeper gives away a needless penalty in front of the Holte in the first minute. Suddenly the old, insecure, inferiority riddled Villa were back. This has been the season from hell. I have done several relegations, including down to the third division but the sheer endless agony of uncertainty makes this the worst.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 06, 2020, 07:19:18 PMQuote from: Allan C on July 06, 2020, 05:40:16 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 06, 2020, 04:21:22 PMEvery club in the Championship had loan players last season. Presumably they were all in false positions, or is this something that only affects the Villa?I don’t care about the others Dave. I only care about us. What cannot be denied is we won promotion on Tammys goals. Then we lost him and we don’t look like scoring again this season. We look certs for relegation which I’ll argue that we wouldn’t be if Tammy was our number 9. Back to the name of this thread ”where did it all go wrong” losing Tammy is high on my list. I don’t like loans for that reason. We won promotion due to another clubs player. And if we were the only club in the Championship not to use loan players, and as a result finished twelfth in perpetuity, what would you say then?Yes your right of course. But really, are we much better off now standing on the edge of a return to the Championship without Tammys goals? Maybe my point is we were too reliant on a loan player in such a key position and then lose him. When we needed his goals most, he was performing for Chelsea
Loaning Tammy was brilliant for us. There was always a chance he wasn't coming back. Which is fine too; you just have to replace him properly, like when any player leaves. That's the bit we fucked right up.
Billings could and should have been sent off 3 times over that day.