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Offline Vill I An

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #120 on: July 02, 2020, 12:07:35 AM »
Winter window should have signed Victor Wanyama from Spurs went off to MLS
Should have signed Jared Bowen. Who made a goal v Chelsea .


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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #121 on: July 02, 2020, 12:11:42 AM »
We all wanted Bowen but I think FFP was against us. We needed a striker more.

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #122 on: July 02, 2020, 12:14:50 AM »
In spades.  Replaced an England striker with one who does not like heading the ball.  How bad do you have to be in football before you get a boot up the arse.
Itís why I donít like loaning players. In effect we gave our leading international class goal scorer for about 30 years a free transfer
We probably wouldn't have came up without him.  I'd say we got a bloody good deal there.

Offline Vill I An

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #123 on: July 02, 2020, 12:17:54 AM »
The sheer arrogance or ignorance for the transfer business in the summer rebuild window to go with little experience is I think a major factor in struggling this season.
Coupled with the no loans of other clubs players.
In the situation needed to slowly grow the club and team rather than this " we're not just here to make up the numbers " and "we'll be competitive" boast.

Sadly a lack of proven  quality means villa falling short.
Brighton have been getting away with things but at least invested in Maupay . A player who for some unbeknown reason wasn't granted to be signed .

Villa instead signed players getting to know the country , the league and adapting as well as adapting to club , culture and everything else .
I mean it was very risky all round.


Offline Vill I An

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #124 on: July 02, 2020, 12:31:04 AM »
In spades.  Replaced an England striker with one who does not like heading the ball.  How bad do you have to be in football before you get a boot up the arse.
Itís why I donít like loaning players. In effect we gave our leading international class goal scorer for about 30 years a free transfer
We probably wouldn't have came up without him.  I'd say we got a bloody good deal there.

It's a needs must when comes to loans and realistic to where we are.
We may not like it but it's an approach Villa shouldn't have so publicly shunned then did a u turn on transfer policy.

An experienced head in each position and maybe a player or 2 on loan from a top 5 club to supplement could have been advantageous to us .

The whole thing is absurd from Purslow in the first place if this will end up being the policy next season whatever division we are in - that is taking loans and experience heads.
It's a nonsense and they hoodwinked us as I said before. Purslow is just business speak  with some spin throw in like a political.
Playing to the crowd .
Saw thru his chat and he hasn't delivered anything remotely to what he was promising.

Maybe long term there is a possibility that a development of youth , and a football philosophy for the club  could occur to some degree.

But as a club striving to be a competitive force in the premier league?
As a club selling their best assets
The cost of relegation  - yes what is going on and where indeed has it got wrong.

The CEO is a big part of this problem as is the set up at Villa behind the scenes.

Feel for Dean Smith and some of the players in many ways.


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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #125 on: July 02, 2020, 06:28:51 AM »
We overpay very average footballers!

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #126 on: July 02, 2020, 07:13:35 AM »
Too many different and interconnected reasons for the decline over the last 10 years to list them all outside of a book.

This season? Main reason is player turnover. You're not gonna have any sort of squad cohesion when you've got 16 players arriving, and the same amount leaving. Add in a big COVID shaped break and we were always behind everyone else. Obviously not much we could do about that given the circumstances leading up to the mass arrivals/departures but no sensible club has that sort of squad instability if they can help it.

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #127 on: July 02, 2020, 01:22:48 PM »
That twat Rudiger randomly deciding to kick the ball out for a corner yesterday.

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #128 on: July 02, 2020, 01:42:29 PM »
In spades.  Replaced an England striker with one who does not like heading the ball.  How bad do you have to be in football before you get a boot up the arse.
Itís why I donít like loaning players. In effect we gave our leading international class goal scorer for about 30 years a free transfer

Also happened with Darren Bent who wasn't a loan.

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #129 on: July 04, 2020, 10:15:31 PM »
In spades.  Replaced an England striker with one who does not like heading the ball.  How bad do you have to be in football before you get a boot up the arse.
Itís why I donít like loaning players. In effect we gave our leading international class goal scorer for about 30 years a free transfer
We probably wouldn't have came up without him.  I'd say we got a bloody good deal there.
I donít think thereís any probably about it. What it did do was create a false position which came home to roost with Tammyís ineffectual replacement.

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #130 on: July 04, 2020, 10:18:22 PM »
What false position?

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #131 on: July 04, 2020, 10:46:11 PM »
in terms of this season I would say Bournemouth away.  After we beat Watford it should have been comfortable. massively distracted by the league cup run

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #132 on: July 05, 2020, 10:55:45 AM »
The biggest, most frustrating, irony of the lot is that when we did have relatively big money to spend we gave it to the most myopic managers imaginable.

Or management teams who have completely got it wrong.  Last summer and this January being a prime example, along with our first season after relegation. 

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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #133 on: July 05, 2020, 11:24:30 AM »
From the moment John McGinn wasnít given the penalty at Spurs day 1 we lost any promotion momentum and confidence. The stupid Heaton penalty against Bournemouth followed by a deflected second. We had many early season opportunities just to get a few extra points but through either VAR/refereeing blunder when in position to do so we couldnít take them. We been chasing ever since to keep up with the point a game needed for survival.
The Southampton and Bournemouth away performances though showed that we almost didnít care, for those alone we deserve to go down, any sense of fight in those games would have given us at least 4 extra points.


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Re: Where Did It All Go Wrong....
« Reply #134 on: July 05, 2020, 01:36:18 PM »
For this season it's a combination of an inexperienced (at PL level) manager who has looked out of his depth, a "talent" recruiter who mistakes unpolished turds for rough diamonds, and a Chief Exec/Owners who sanctioned over payments for mediocre/piss poor players and were not ruthless enough when the writing was on the wall months ago.
 
It's almost as if we planned for another stint in the Champioship...

Prior to that, well it was that idiot Lerner that started it all, one insane cock up after another culminating in a sale to Tony cheap shoes the charlatan from China.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2020, 01:52:22 PM by ktvillan »

 


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