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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7785 on: September 23, 2020, 12:48:56 PM »
I'd have that Bowen off Wet Sham if they are desperate for cash :)

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7786 on: September 23, 2020, 12:50:32 PM »
Rice, albeit on a limited sample size, has never impressed me much.

Have your tried couscous as an alternative?

Haha!

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7787 on: September 23, 2020, 01:10:56 PM »
So if we were doing a priority list for new signings (&/or loans) what would yours be?

Today mine would be:
1. Striker
2. Powerful Centre Mid
3. Back up Centre Half
4. Winger
5. Left Back

Tomorrow probably different again
This window:
1. Defensive midfield
2. Winger/Striker

Next summer:
1. Left back
2. Right back
3. Central midfielder
Plus possibly some more depending on who's available and where our weaknesses are

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7788 on: September 23, 2020, 01:24:57 PM »
the number of players we bring in is now dependant on how many we ship out

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7789 on: September 23, 2020, 01:25:12 PM »
Reading that list we must have a lot of weaknesses

Eventually we will have a squad of 40 - no one ever leaves us unless it is a free transfer at the end of their contract

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7790 on: September 23, 2020, 01:27:00 PM »
That's truly remarkable. 80m. Jesus Christ.

and to play in place of Kante too probably....

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7791 on: September 23, 2020, 01:27:08 PM »
We really, really need a new decent central midfielder.  If we don't get one, I think it'll be nearly as stupid as going into last season with just Wesley up front.
CMF and CB. We're vulnerable in both areas.

Regards midfield what names are we thinking though knowing Dean Smith likes a ball player , a passer as it were who controls the tempo of play,  rather than a big physical brute presence and destroyer. At this time Douglas Luiz is that screen and ball player. The destroying disruptor is Nakamba who offers no offensive threat whatsoever.

Or are we talking a box to box all round midfielder
The number 8 someone though who can pass and move.
Or further still like a number 10 David Silva the creator rather than the runner and ball carrying McGinn or lateral passer afraid of progressive passing and responsibilities (outside of set plays) Hourihane.

A player who can help control the tempo of matches , keeps the ball are the qualities and focus for midfielder not a Declan Rice who is there predominantly as a defensive presence.

All well and good to call for a brute powerhouse but that's not Smith profile  for the  type of midfield despite some people wanting it.  The football game has moved on .

I want a midfielder who will be on the ball and dictate the play.

Unless we get an overseas player like a Rhodri of Man city who has the ability technically and the strength to improve upon Nakamba.

Smith I think wants a midfielder either like Dele Ali or  Götze

Ultimately I would like a Thiago Alcântara
 :)

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7792 on: September 23, 2020, 01:29:26 PM »
Somehow I cant see Liverpool selling us thiago just days after buying him

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7793 on: September 23, 2020, 01:36:53 PM »
Have to say André-Frank Anguissa at Fulham was outstanding Vs Leeds and his calmness and strength as well as link up first class.
Physically imposing and he's one to watch v Fulham Sunday and note how good a midfielder he is.
Had the better of Kalvin Phillips by a mile and Angussia would be the sort I think many English people like here because of the assumed size and power to dominate a midfield.

Similarly Doucoure . All I ask are for people to understand the likes of Jorginho and Alcântara. Footballers who would totally fit Dean Smith profile of midfield players in a deep lying role.
In many ways we have Douglas Luiz who we hope gets on the ball but a further support to replace the ineffectual from open play Hourihane and to add healthy competition to McGinn is actually bordering essential from seeing match v Sheff Utd.

If a wing forward comes in then perhaps Grealish is going to be moved inside for the midfield but I would not be averse to another midfielder not a Declan Rice or a simple huff and puff but a cultured footy intelligent player and or an energetic , pressing player.



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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7794 on: September 23, 2020, 01:44:57 PM »
So if we were doing a priority list for new signings (&/or loans) what would yours be?

Today mine would be:
1. Striker
2. Powerful Centre Mid
3. Back up Centre Half
4. Winger
5. Left Back

Tomorrow probably different again
This window:
1. Defensive midfield
2. Winger/Striker

Next summer:
1. Left back
2. Right back
3. Central midfielder
Plus possibly some more depending on who's available and where our weaknesses are

What midfielders though when people want this powerful midfielder type? There's a nuance to the role of midfielder and one such power would be possession of the ball and controlling the tempo.

What context of a midfielder does one think would fit and be of use to the team and Dean Smith play .

Not necessarily a type of midfielder that you have preference for but a midfielder that fits contextually and with perspective to both football in 2020 and Villa.

That is the ultimate questions for debates , discussion and ideas

It's both very simple yet also so complex to have the fusion of midfield.

I certainly agree a midfielder coming in to help the controls of the play is priority but maybe Villa will just look to get the ball wide and forward at every opportunity ?


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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7795 on: September 23, 2020, 01:53:56 PM »
Rice, albeit on a limited sample size, has never impressed me much.

Have your tried couscous as an alternative?

Haha!

This guy's comedy credentials are sorely overlooked.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7796 on: September 23, 2020, 01:59:13 PM »
Rice, albeit on a limited sample size, has never impressed me much.

Have your tried couscous as an alternative?

Yes, it's very moorish.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7797 on: September 23, 2020, 02:01:11 PM »
Rice, albeit on a limited sample size, has never impressed me much.

Have your tried couscous as an alternative?

Haha!

This guy's comedy credentials are sorely overlooked.

Agree

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7798 on: September 23, 2020, 02:08:19 PM »
That's truly remarkable. 80m. Jesus Christ.
If this happens Chelscum's spend in this window would reach £300M. Can anyone blame the Government if they refuse to bail out football in this crisis?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7799 on: September 23, 2020, 02:24:56 PM »
That's truly remarkable. 80m. Jesus Christ.
If this happens Chelscum's spend in this window would reach £300M. Can anyone blame the Government if they refuse to bail out football in this crisis?

I read that Spurs had made people redundant, then spent £20m on wages for Gareth Bale over the next 12 months.

 


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