collapse collapse

Please donate to help keep this site going.
September 26, 2020, 01:15:18 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 967 | Comments: 23


[url=https://ibb.co/VpNq...
September 23, 2020, 08:37:01 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 304 | Comments: 1

Players in England first offic...
September 20, 2020, 01:40:06 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 685 | Comments: 5

The commentators in the nation...
September 19, 2020, 06:29:36 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 645 | Comments: 4

The big news since last season...
September 02, 2020, 10:10:15 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 1073 | Comments: 14

After the deflating experience...

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread  (Read 405342 times)

Offline PeterWithesShin

  • Member
  • Posts: 58814
  • GM : 17.03.2015
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2265 on: August 12, 2020, 11:25:12 PM »
Although they stole, arguably, their greatest ever one.

Where did they steal Fernando Nelson from?

Online cdbullyweefan

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 45496
  • Location: Yardley Massive
  • I still hate Bono.
    • Every time you click this link, a child in Africa dies.
  • GM : 21.01.2021
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2266 on: August 12, 2020, 11:27:06 PM »
Sweden obvs. Why do you think they wrote that song about him?

Online dave.woodhall

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 53891
  • Location: Treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry.
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2267 on: August 12, 2020, 11:29:47 PM »
It's so sad to see the state of Scottish football now.

Online KevinGage

  • Member
  • Posts: 11395
  • Location: Stocious in Seattle
  • GM : 20.09.20
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2268 on: August 12, 2020, 11:31:01 PM »
Illustrates the folly of Ireland and Scotland using the excuse of small populations for pish football.

Bit harsh on the 2 Irish teams who have made it to the knockout stages in 5 of their 6 World Cups. However the gold standard for overachievement is surely Uruguay.



The Ireland team of 1990 was probably the best of the bunch and still didn't win a game getting to the QF.

It's probably sacrilege so soon after Big Jack's departure but with the personnel to call upon there (top players in all of the top British sides at the time) that side underperformed. Sheedy, Whelan, McGrath, Townsend and so on. They were far better than up and at 'em under pressure bollocks.

I'm not overly familiar with the NI team of the 50s Peter Mac apart, but the latter incarnations have been all to willing to embrace the role of plucky underdog.

Even now, with the money rife in the top leagues, small nations like Belgium, Croatia, Switzerland and Kosovo show what you can achieve (the latter more with players produced rather than international success) with a coherent plan and dedication to the technical aspects of player development.

Offline PeterWithesShin

  • Member
  • Posts: 58814
  • GM : 17.03.2015
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2269 on: August 12, 2020, 11:38:29 PM »
Scotland have become like Wales were in the 80s and 90s, a few very good players but mainly a squad filled out with lower league players.

Online Tokyo Sexwhale

  • Member
  • Posts: 3093
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2270 on: August 13, 2020, 12:03:46 AM »
Scotland have become like Wales were in the 80s and 90s, a few very good players but mainly a squad filled out with lower league players.

Having a few good players seems to be an improvement from recent years when they've had none!

Robertson, McGinn, Tierney, Gilmour, McTominay and Fraser are all reasonably young players of quality, and could form the core of a decent squad if they can find a few more to fit around them.

Their striker options are awful though.

Online cdbullyweefan

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 45496
  • Location: Yardley Massive
  • I still hate Bono.
    • Every time you click this link, a child in Africa dies.
  • GM : 21.01.2021
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2271 on: August 13, 2020, 12:07:24 AM »
Goalkeepers are generally passable (though have declined in the last few years), right backs okay, an abundance of genuine talent at left back, some good midfielders, attacky wingy sorts, not bad.

Centre-half: utter pish.
Centre-forward: worse than centre-half.

Offline Brazilian Villain

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4603
  • GM : 02.03.2021
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2272 on: August 13, 2020, 12:07:29 AM »
Illustrates the folly of Ireland and Scotland using the excuse of small populations for pish football.

Bit harsh on the 2 Irish teams who have made it to the knockout stages in 5 of their 6 World Cups. However the gold standard for overachievement is surely Uruguay.


The Ireland team of 1990 was probably the best of the bunch and still didn't win a game getting to the QF.

It's probably sacrilege so soon after Big Jack's departure but with the personnel to call upon there (top players in all of the top British sides at the time) that side underperformed. Sheedy, Whelan, McGrath, Townsend and so on. They were far better than up and at 'em under pressure bollocks.

That was a common view but if you watch the Jack Charlton: The Irish Years doc (it's on Youtube) the players didn't feel that way about Jack's tactics. I also think most teams would have struggled to beat Italy in Rome in the quarter final when they're hosting the World Cup.

It could be argued that the 1982 team that didn't qualify was better (lost out to Belgium and France, the latter on goal difference). I remember reading an article in the Irish Indo many, many moons that wondered how an all-Ireland team would have fared in the 1982 WC. To the NI team that did so well you could have added Hughton, Lawrenson, Moran, O'Leary, Brady, Whelan, Stapleton and Robinson. Wouldn't have been too shabby.

Online SoccerHQ

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 37664
  • Location: Down, down, deeper and Down.
  • GM : 19.06.2021
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2273 on: August 13, 2020, 12:34:02 AM »
According to his YouTube video he does a lot of 'not scoring'. He'll fit right in.

Haven't seen it but I would hazard a guess that the video was accompanied by some just splendid music. They always are.

He is miles better than Tonev who's YT video was hilarious bad, just full of wild shots hitting row F which was exactly what he did here.

Wouldn't be a bad signing at all. Decent enough player for Bremen although was injured a bit in their ultimately successful bid to stay up. They've sort of morphed into the german version of us in the Bundesliga after Hamburg finally got relegated two years ago. Claudio Pizzaro still plays for them, 41 now.

Online SoccerHQ

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 37664
  • Location: Down, down, deeper and Down.
  • GM : 19.06.2021
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2274 on: August 13, 2020, 12:38:35 AM »
Scotland have become like Wales were in the 80s and 90s, a few very good players but mainly a squad filled out with lower league players.

Their midfield is basically full of premier league, SJM, McTominay, Armstrong at Southampton who did well end of the season, Gilmour at Chelsea, Ryan Fraser although he's in the naughty corner now for bailing out on Bournemouth. Just lack CBs and a decent striker but I'd say in other areas it's comfortably better than the current Irish squads.

Scotland just have a weird mentality, always expecting things to go wrong so think the players feel that when they come from their succesful club teams (Robertson and Tierney). so lack of motivation. They seem to have a huge number of injury call offs compared to the other home nations which isn't a good sign either, Wales were like that a decade ago and then it all stopped once they started winning.

Compare that to Wales with Bale and Ramsey enjoying playing for them more than their clubs which is pretty incredible.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2020, 12:40:29 AM by SoccerHQ »

Offline Brazilian Villain

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4603
  • GM : 02.03.2021
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2275 on: August 13, 2020, 01:40:53 AM »
Scotland just have a weird mentality, always expecting things to go wrong so think the players feel that when they come from their succesful club teams (Robertson and Tierney). so lack of motivation.

Maybe it's because they are colonized by wankers. ;)

Offline RamboandBruno

  • Member
  • Posts: 454
  • Location: Birmingham about 4 miles from Villa Park
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2276 on: August 13, 2020, 08:21:10 AM »
Illustrates the folly of Ireland and Scotland using the excuse of small populations for pish football.

Bit harsh on the 2 Irish teams who have made it to the knockout stages in 5 of their 6 World Cups. However the gold standard for overachievement is surely Uruguay.


The Ireland team of 1990 was probably the best of the bunch and still didn't win a game getting to the QF.

It's probably sacrilege so soon after Big Jack's departure but with the personnel to call upon there (top players in all of the top British sides at the time) that side underperformed. Sheedy, Whelan, McGrath, Townsend and so on. They were far better than up and at 'em under pressure bollocks.

That was a common view but if you watch the Jack Charlton: The Irish Years doc (it's on Youtube) the players didn't feel that way about Jack's tactics. I also think most teams would have struggled to beat Italy in Rome in the quarter final when they're hosting the World Cup.

It could be argued that the 1982 team that didn't qualify was better (lost out to Belgium and France, the latter on goal difference). I remember reading an article in the Irish Indo many, many moons that wondered how an all-Ireland team would have fared in the 1982 WC. To the NI team that did so well you could have added Hughton, Lawrenson, Moran, O'Leary, Brady, Whelan, Stapleton and Robinson. Wouldn't have been too shabby.

I think it is probably sacrilege to be honest. My first memories of a World Cup are 82 when I was 8 which the republic obviously didnt qualify for, but I grew up knowing from my dad and watching footie on TV (other than going down the villa) that Ireland had some great players at the time, many mentioned above. But they had always under achieved not qualifying for tournos. Charlton added to the core group of top players through hook and by crook and moulded them into a team. Within that context I really dont know how they can be seen as underachieving at 1990 at least. 2002, is my big regret and the whole Roy Keane episode, if they had bt Spain on penalties it would of been South Korea in the QFs and who knows from there, Keane could of made the difference.

In the wider conversation, as has been said Uruguay given their population etc are the masters of over achievement. Whilst the Balkan states it could be argued have, comparing to Ireland is a little unfair, when Ireland has never had a professional league system.

Online ADVILLAFAN

  • Member
  • Posts: 9996
  • Location: Yardley/Shirley
  • GM : 17.01.2020
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2277 on: August 13, 2020, 08:27:19 AM »
The GK for NI was very good in 1958. Can't remember his name, but he played for Manure. I'm assuming Blanchflower was in the team too

Offline Hillbilly

  • Member
  • Posts: 1226
  • Location: A long, long way from B6...
  • It's parfull, so it is.
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2278 on: August 13, 2020, 08:43:29 AM »
The GK for NI was very good in 1958. Can't remember his name, but he played for Manure. I'm assuming Blanchflower was in the team too
Harry Gregg. Blanchflower was there and some other decent players like Jimmy McIlroy, Billy Bingham and a guy who won the FA Cup the year before ;-)

Offline Dazvillain

  • Member
  • Posts: 3983
  • Age: 54
  • Location: Ex Midlander now in S. Wales
Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #2279 on: August 13, 2020, 09:08:54 AM »
I thought Id ask why were being linked with Milot Rashica as I can only see poor goal scoring ratio around 1 every 5 games ... thought wed wAnt better than this ?
Sorry to disrupt ur convo everyone

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal