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Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1965 on: August 09, 2020, 10:00:21 PM »
Sarr for sale at £40m or Benrahma for £25m?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1966 on: August 09, 2020, 10:05:09 PM »
Sarr for sale at £40m or Benrahma for £25m?


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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1967 on: August 09, 2020, 10:21:25 PM »
 ;D What a meme!

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1968 on: August 09, 2020, 10:28:59 PM »
I really struggle with the term “defensive midfielder “.... when did it become a specialised position...??
With nearly all teams playing a back 4 why do you need more defence??
Three/ four decent midfielders should be able to cover any gaps....
I look at the likes or Eric Dier and Declan Rice and see an out of position centre half ...

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1969 on: August 09, 2020, 10:38:38 PM »
I really struggle with the term “defensive midfielder “.... when did it become a specialised position...??
With nearly all teams playing a back 4 why do you need more defence??
Three/ four decent midfielders should be able to cover any gaps....
I look at the likes or Eric Dier and Declan Rice and see an out of position centre half ...


I think it became known as a defensive midfielder around the same time it was termed 'The Makelele Role'.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1970 on: August 09, 2020, 10:43:08 PM »
Defensive midfielders have been around for decades.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1971 on: August 09, 2020, 10:46:56 PM »
I thought that too. Nothing new with that position.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1972 on: August 09, 2020, 10:47:38 PM »
I really struggle with the term “defensive midfielder “.... when did it become a specialised position...??
With nearly all teams playing a back 4 why do you need more defence??
Three/ four decent midfielders should be able to cover any gaps....
I look at the likes or Eric Dier and Declan Rice and see an out of position centre half ...


I think it became known as a defensive midfielder around the same time it was termed 'The Makelele Role'.


Kante, Fabinho, Fernandinho, Matic etc would all disagree with the idea that 4 at the back is enough defence. Holding midfield and the 2 full backs are where top teams are separated these days.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1973 on: August 09, 2020, 10:51:22 PM »
Defensive midfielders have been around for decades.

Pretty sure we have pioneered defensive attackers, though.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1974 on: August 09, 2020, 10:51:45 PM »
so I presume our defensive midfielder in the legendary team was Des Bremner

he just wasn’t called that then


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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1975 on: August 09, 2020, 11:15:42 PM »
Defensive midfielders have been around for decades.

Pretty sure we have pioneered defensive attackers, though.

Not this season we didn’t, none of them were a first line of defence Heskey (who I am in minority as I rated him)...final few games Samatta worked the press a bit better.

As opposed to needing a defensive midfielder I’d far prefer out full backs once in a while made it hard for opponents crossing a ball into the danger area.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1977 on: August 09, 2020, 11:26:54 PM »
Defensive midfielders have been around for decades.
I thought that too. Nothing new with that position.
Brian Godfrey the destroyer.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1978 on: August 10, 2020, 08:11:15 AM »
Defensive midfielders have been around for decades.
I thought that too. Nothing new with that position.
Brian Godfrey the destroyer.

James Cowan. The master.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1979 on: August 10, 2020, 09:17:29 AM »
Defensive midfielders have been around for decades.
I thought that too. Nothing new with that position.
Brian Godfrey the destroyer.

James Cowan. The master.

In the relative recentish past, God himself played that role for SGT a few times. kevin Richardson, George Boateng, Petrov, Glen Whelan, I would of thought would be considered more defensive centre midfielders.

 


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