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Author Topic: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread  (Read 419714 times)

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1950 on: August 09, 2020, 01:30:12 AM »
Declan Rice is the player you describe as “he puts in a shift” but generally in doing so achieves the square root of fuck all. If he was Finland or the Faroes and not English he’d be playing in the Azerbaijan Premier League.

He’s getting regular outings for the national side so he must be achieving better than the square root of FA.

Is that the true measure of talent? He’s just a good player, nothing more. Generally nondescript. I don’t dislike him but would you have him over McGinn or Luiz in our midfield; two players that cost a combined £18m vs Rice who will cost any team that buys him £50m+

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1951 on: August 09, 2020, 07:17:00 AM »
Rice is a stodgy pudding

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1952 on: August 09, 2020, 07:18:58 AM »
also doing the speculation rounds a part ex deal for Wilson from Bournemouth plus Hogan. Yes, it's the season to be silly.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1953 on: August 09, 2020, 07:33:13 AM »
also doing the speculation rounds a part ex deal for Wilson from Bournemouth plus Hogan. Yes, it's the season to be silly.

Wow, that would be worthwhile if only to get rid of Hogan let alone getting Callum Wilson.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1954 on: August 09, 2020, 08:17:20 AM »
I've always rated Wilson but think this is probably a bit of fantasy. With the parachute payment and £40m for Ake in their pocket they don't need to look at cut price deals.

And why would anyone look at Hogan and think he was worth a punt

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1955 on: August 09, 2020, 08:31:07 AM »

And why would anyone look at Hogan and think he was worth a punt

Without looking too deeply into it didn’t he score a few goals pre lockdown for SHA which might get a bite out of a championship club?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1956 on: August 09, 2020, 08:40:16 AM »
I've always rated Wilson but think this is probably a bit of fantasy. With the parachute payment and £40m for Ake in their pocket they don't need to look at cut price deals.

And why would anyone look at Hogan and think he was worth a punt

I read that Bournemouth still owe £81m in transfer payments so if that is true they may be looking to sell a few more players.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1957 on: August 09, 2020, 09:01:15 AM »
I've always rated Wilson but think this is probably a bit of fantasy. With the parachute payment and £40m for Ake in their pocket they don't need to look at cut price deals.

And why would anyone look at Hogan and think he was worth a punt

I read that Bournemouth still owe £81m in transfer payments so if that is true they may be looking to sell a few more players.

The drop off in income is going to hit them hard you would think, I can see them being in real trouble in the next couple of years.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1958 on: August 09, 2020, 09:25:13 AM »
also doing the speculation rounds a part ex deal for Wilson from Bournemouth plus Hogan. Yes, it's the season to be silly.

I’d like us to sign Tammy, but this has a more realistic feel to it. Add Benhrama and Watkins and that would be our forward business done.
Someone mentioned loftus-cheek earlier in the the thread, that would be a great signing.
On Davies, despite all the ‘he’s shite’ talk, we looked a better team every time he was on the pitch instead of Samatta. He’s definitely not shite, but despite the fact he holds it up well etc, he never looks like scoring, which is obviously a problem. I think if we get two forwards and a winger in, some will have to be shifted out, so one of Samatta or Davies will go, personally I’d rather cut our losses and sell Samatta, but horses for courses.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1959 on: August 09, 2020, 09:51:44 AM »
Wilson wants out too apparently, rumours of a fairly low relegation release clause.

If we are realistic and want to move forward, Wilson is a decent shout as an experienced front man still at a decent age. Wilson, Watkins and Benrahma would be a very, very decent step forward up front compared to where we are.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1960 on: August 09, 2020, 10:02:32 AM »
Wilson wants out too apparently, rumours of a fairly low relegation release clause.

If we are realistic and want to move forward, Wilson is a decent shout as an experienced front man still at a decent age. Wilson, Watkins and Benrahma would be a very, very decent step forward up front compared to where we are.

Absolutely this.
What difference this would  make to the dynamics and threat for our forward line.

Sell Samatta and give Davis away to anyone who doesn’t want goals and that’s a game changing  transfer period.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1961 on: August 09, 2020, 10:16:19 AM »
Declan Rice is the player you describe as “he puts in a shift” but generally in doing so achieves the square root of fuck all. If he was Finland or the Faroes and not English he’d be playing in the Azerbaijan Premier League.

He’s getting regular outings for the national side so he must be achieving better than the square root of FA.

Is that the true measure of talent? He’s just a good player, nothing more. Generally nondescript. I don’t dislike him but would you have him over McGinn or Luiz in our midfield; two players that cost a combined £18m vs Rice who will cost any team that buys him £50m+

You can't really compare him to McGinn, as Rice is a defensive midfielder and McGinn is an attacking midfielder.  If I had to choose, I'd definitely take him over McGinn in a straight swap though, no question at all.  Rice will be like Henderson in future I reckon, one of those players unappreciated by fans of other teams, but a key player for the team he plays for.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1962 on: August 09, 2020, 10:35:36 AM »
Declan Rice is the player you describe as “he puts in a shift” but generally in doing so achieves the square root of fuck all. If he was Finland or the Faroes and not English he’d be playing in the Azerbaijan Premier League.

He’s getting regular outings for the national side so he must be achieving better than the square root of FA.

Is that the true measure of talent? He’s just a good player, nothing more. Generally nondescript. I don’t dislike him but would you have him over McGinn or Luiz in our midfield; two players that cost a combined £18m vs Rice who will cost any team that buys him £50m+

You can't really compare him to McGinn, as Rice is a defensive midfielder and McGinn is an attacking midfielder.  If I had to choose, I'd definitely take him over McGinn in a straight swap though, no question at all.  Rice will be like Henderson in future I reckon, one of those players unappreciated by fans of other teams, but a key player for the team he plays for.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1963 on: August 09, 2020, 10:41:09 AM »
You can't really compare him to McGinn, as Rice is a defensive midfielder and McGinn is an attacking midfielder.  If I had to choose, I'd definitely take him over McGinn in a straight swap though, no question at all.  Rice will be like Henderson in future I reckon, one of those players unappreciated by fans of other teams, but a key player for the team he plays for.

He's certainly unappreciated by fans of Ireland. I agree with you btw but not worth 65m.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1964 on: August 09, 2020, 11:19:20 AM »
I like Rice, he was great against us at VP, not showy but uses the ball well and fine positioning

Good job he can’t shoot or we may be playing Championship football next year

 


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