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Offline jwarry

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1665 on: August 06, 2020, 07:32:44 PM »
Hope there is some truth in the Rashica rumour, he looks good

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1666 on: August 06, 2020, 07:33:43 PM »
Checked the internet this afternoon.
This is the players linked with Villa so far by Fleet Street's finest:

Said Benrahma
Divock Origi
Takefuso Kubo
Jose Gomes Campana 
Ruben Shakpoke
Kelechi Ihenacho
James McCarthy
John Swift
Christian Luyindama
Robin Olsen
Eberechi Eze 
Ollie Watkins
Emo Buendia
Aaron Hickey
Odsonne Edouard
Max Aarons
Milot Rashica
Jeff Hendrick
Ben Chisene
Sil Swinkels - signed

Wonder how many will actually join us?


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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1667 on: August 06, 2020, 07:33:49 PM »
Last season the priority was to buy a quantity of  players. I think we all knew that we needed more experience.

Luiz, Mings & Konsa probably increased their value.

Heaton, Targett, Guilbert, Hause probably held their value or could improve next season.

Wesley, El Ghazi, Nakamba, Engels, Jota, Trez, & Samata have probably dropped in value & are not likely to be good enough. It's tough on Wesley because he had a big task, missed a big chunk of the season & will take a long time to recover. In Jan few of us would have rated Luiz.

Overall recruitment was much more miss than hit.

You're only as good as your forwards & ours were simply not good enough. This is the priority before next season.

Wesley won't have dropped value significantly. Nor will Nakamba. Trez probably increased from the 8 we paid. Likewise El Ghazi, we got him pretty cheaply and for all his faults, he could have easily ended the season with 8-9 goals but for some of the worst finishing known to man. I doubt Engels has dropped from the £6.5 ish we paid either, it was peanuts for a player who in the first 10-12 games looked a pretty astute buy.

Samatta, prob going to lose 3-4 million, and Jota cost 1.5 and Gardner, so 1.5. For all the "miss" element, Trez scored the goals that kept us in the Prem, Wesley was out for a full half a season and had 6 prem goals before that, and there were signs he was starting to adapt. I think the recruitment, for the money paid and the number needed, was ok. Not brilliant, but ok.

This summer, 4-5 £20 million players will improve some of the others too.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1668 on: August 06, 2020, 07:38:43 PM »
At this time of year it’s amazing how many ITK’s are born.
School holidays, innit!

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1669 on: August 06, 2020, 07:47:06 PM »
Engels for me is still our second best defender and the best partnership is him and Mings
I know he made mistakes didn’t they all but he had a class about him the same as Luiz had for me

Don’t know why he fell out if favour but he will play top level football somewhere else if we let him go imo
« Last Edit: August 06, 2020, 07:48:48 PM by john e »

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1670 on: August 06, 2020, 07:50:22 PM »
I think Konsa has come on a lot and will be a very good player.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1671 on: August 06, 2020, 07:50:58 PM »
Engels for me is still our second best defender and the best partnership is him and Mings
I know he made mistakes didn’t they all but he had a class about him the same as Luiz had for me

Don’t know why he fell out if favour but he will play top level football somewhere else if we let him go imo

I think he lost his confidence. Was excellent in the cup final though, and then hurt his achilles and was out the rest of the season, and could be some of next. Like you though, I think he has it in him to be a good player, and would have benefited from the more compact formation. Konsa though in time will be better than any of our defenders. Kid has got a great chance of becoming a top player.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1672 on: August 06, 2020, 07:51:54 PM »
Konsa and Mings are our best partnership by some distance, imo. I did like Engels early in the season, but we looked much less likely to concede in the concluding part of the season.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1673 on: August 06, 2020, 08:00:48 PM »
I'm afraid Engels lack of pace is the main issue. Maybe with a season behind him he'll come good.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1674 on: August 06, 2020, 08:03:42 PM »
Engels is a better footballer imo
Konsa did improve but he won’t be able to make up for his limited ball playing abilities
I would rather we go with someone more comfortable on the ball which is not Konsa

if we could have played the back 4 of Guilbert-Engels-Mings-Target for most of the season we would not have been scrambling around at the end in my view

The Man City (home) game was one of the worst displays I’ve seen in a long time an utter disgrace

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1675 on: August 06, 2020, 08:07:27 PM »
Konsa is going to be class.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1676 on: August 06, 2020, 08:10:04 PM »
Konsa is going to be class.

well I do hope your right but I haven’t noticed much of that yet

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1677 on: August 06, 2020, 08:10:31 PM »
Konsa is only going to get better, imo. He and Mings could be our first choice centre half pairing for years.

Let's not forget Man City can make any central defensive pair look shite on their day. They beat Liverpool four-nil last time they met.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1678 on: August 06, 2020, 08:10:49 PM »
Engels is a better footballer imo
Konsa did improve but he won’t be able to make up for his limited ball playing abilities
I would rather we go with someone more comfortable on the ball which is not Konsa

if we could have played the back 4 of Guilbert-Engels-Mings-Target for most of the season we would not have been scrambling around at the end in my view

The Man City (home) game was one of the worst displays I’ve seen in a long time an utter disgrace

I’d have it the other way around in terms of Konsa and Engels myself pal.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1679 on: August 06, 2020, 08:11:01 PM »
Checked the internet this afternoon.
This is the players linked with Villa so far by Fleet Street's finest:

Said Benrahma
Divock Origi
Takefuso Kubo
Jose Gomes Campana
Ruben Shakpoke
Kelechi Ihenacho
James McCarthy
John Swift
Christian Luyindama
Robin Olsen
Eberechi Eze
Ollie Watkins
Emo Buendia
Aaron Hickey
Odsonne Edouard
Max Aarons
Milot Rashica
Jeff Hendrick
Ben Chisene
Sil Swinkels - signed

Wonder how many will actually join us?


who the fuck are most of them?

 


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