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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1290 on: August 03, 2020, 09:28:23 AM »
Minutes per goal: 179. My maths might not be great but pretty sure that's better than "one in five".

That would make him 1 in 2. I'm really unsure about him, although that stat surprises me.

Can't see Liverpool selling unless ACON is cancelled as both Mane and Salah will be off.

That's only based on a small sample, ie last seaaon. Also doesn't take into account FA Cup in which he failed to score in 250 minutes.

Premier League only stats from previous seasons:

2018/19: 124 minutes per goal
2017/18: only played ten minutes, no goals
2016/17: 209 minutes per goal

Bundesliga:

2017/18 (on loan at Wolfsburg): 328 minutes per goal.

Either way, better than one in five. Although maybe his figures are boosted by often coming on against tired legs. Plus he plays for a good side, who are likely to create loads of chances.

Still, might be worth a look at based on stats. I don't watch enough non-Villa matches to have any real opinion of him.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1291 on: August 03, 2020, 09:29:41 AM »
I like Origi and think he could be a good player for someone, but personally I wouldn't go near a player like that in our position.

However much we paid him, it's a step down, and although he may be a fabulous pro and give everything to the cause, in our case it generally seems to go the other way, God aside.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1292 on: August 03, 2020, 09:35:32 AM »
Origi has never really been given a run of games to establish himself properly in the Liverpool team has he?  That said, he never seems to let them down with effort and chipping in with the odd goal here and there.  I wonder whether we liken him to others who have left Liverpool, only to turn out pants and at high cost, such as Ibe, Solanke et al.  If we signed him, I'd hope that he wouldn't see it as doing us a favour and turn out like the others.  Perhaps he is seen as a stepping stone to better players when Villa are more established in the Premier Division.

Ray Houghton, Steve Staunton and Dean Saunders didn't do so bad here.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1293 on: August 03, 2020, 09:42:19 AM »
I like Origi and think he could be a good player for someone, but personally I wouldn't go near a player like that in our position.

However much we paid him, it's a step down, and although he may be a fabulous pro and give everything to the cause, in our case it generally seems to go the other way, God aside.

Saunders, Carew, Penrice?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1294 on: August 03, 2020, 09:42:31 AM »
If Newcastle sale isn't going through, let's go and give the sweatshop owner a few quid for St 147. Ta.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1295 on: August 03, 2020, 09:44:20 AM »
Cliff Thorburn isn't going to sign for Villa.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1296 on: August 03, 2020, 09:45:01 AM »
Origi is a hard one to judge, when he comes on for Liverpool it is generally either in a team cruising to a win & resting one of the top forwards or one that is throwing kitchen sink chasing a goal so he can always get involved in action & will get chances - not really seen him in a team where he will spend large chunks of games isolated up too & might only get one chance. 

That’s where Ings has been so good this season, you compare Soton when they have hard working, hardly scoring Long up top with hard working finisher Ings...one would easily have got them relegated, one got them mid table.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1297 on: August 03, 2020, 09:45:59 AM »
Cliff Thorburn isn't going to sign for Villa.

Shame, he would add a bit of pace.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1298 on: August 03, 2020, 09:47:33 AM »
Cliff Thorburn isn't going to sign for Villa.

But he's not under a cow.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1299 on: August 03, 2020, 09:48:43 AM »
Cliff Thorburn isn't going to sign for Villa.

I think there might be a cue of teams in for him.

Sorry.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1300 on: August 03, 2020, 09:49:49 AM »
Cliff Thorburn isn't going to sign for Villa.

I think there might be a cue of teams in for him.

Sorry.

Give me a break.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1301 on: August 03, 2020, 09:50:02 AM »
Cliff Thorburn isn't going to sign for Villa.
Give it a rest

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1302 on: August 03, 2020, 09:55:11 AM »
I'm really sceptical about taking on players who are stepping down (yes, I know, I know) or where they're past their peak but we're hoping to get a late surge out of them.

I reckon if you looked at the raw numbers, the chance of success with those kind of signings is tiny, but the few big pressworthy successes skew your thinking.

I think the ideal signing for us at this stage is a good, young championship player who is stepping up but stands out in their team to a degree that means there is little doubt about their ability to do it. Bowen is a perfect example. They aren't cheap but I think these are the best signings on a risk vs cost basis.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1303 on: August 03, 2020, 09:56:32 AM »
Cliff Thorburn isn't going to sign for Villa.

I think there might be a cue of teams in for him.

Sorry.

Give me a break.

Yes I felt that was a bit harsh.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1304 on: August 03, 2020, 09:57:08 AM »
Basically unless you're Man City, the transfer market is an absolute roulette table.

 


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