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Author Topic: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?  (Read 288783 times)

Online Villan82

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4800 on: May 30, 2020, 09:20:27 PM »
No vaccine, a half cocked contact tracing system and because of this a risk of a massive second spike.

The Government has effectively removed lockdown for political expedience and football is back for political and ££ reasons sending completely the wrong message to young men and women who are itching to play (which will put them and their families at risk). This country.

And roughly 10 times as many deaths per day yesterday as the average European country.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4801 on: May 30, 2020, 11:46:52 PM »
Having read through some quotes from AEG, Mings, Targett this week we donít seem to be fully 100% into this season restarting. We seem quite negative whether itís complaining about having to wash their own stuff to how poor their fitness is to questioning why they are back. 

The fact is it is coming back and mindset is going to be the difference in many respects to whether we stay up or not. Really not loving what Iíve heard so far. Look at Norwood at Sheffield Utd saying theyíd be ready to play tomorrow and that they all surpassed their fitness test results on their return to training in comparison to return for the last pre season. They are bang up for it, we need to be too.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4802 on: May 31, 2020, 01:31:02 AM »
Having read through some quotes from AEG, Mings, Targett this week we donít seem to be fully 100% into this season restarting. We seem quite negative whether itís complaining about having to wash their own stuff to how poor their fitness is to questioning why they are back. 

The fact is it is coming back and mindset is going to be the difference in many respects to whether we stay up or not. Really not loving what Iíve heard so far. Look at Norwood at Sheffield Utd saying theyíd be ready to play tomorrow and that they all surpassed their fitness test results on their return to training in comparison to return for the last pre season. They are bang up for it, we need to be too.

Perhaps they're on the same wavelength as markeeeebeeee2005. I certainly echo those comments.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4803 on: May 31, 2020, 09:13:21 AM »
No vaccine, a half cocked contact tracing system and because of this a risk of a massive second spike.

The Government has effectively removed lockdown for political expedience and football is back for political and ££ reasons sending completely the wrong message to young men and women who are itching to play (which will put them and their families at risk). This country.

And roughly 10 times as many deaths per day yesterday as the average European country.
So what is our population and population density compared to the average European Country, as surely without that info the stat is meaningless?

Offline Abbeyfealeavfc

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4804 on: May 31, 2020, 09:28:26 AM »
"meaningless" with or without a question mark is not a word I would chose to use no matter how many deaths are recorded in this country or any other for that matter.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4805 on: May 31, 2020, 09:39:08 AM »
I'm pretty sure our population isn't 10 times that of Germany, Italy, France, Spain, et al.

Offline spangley1812

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4806 on: May 31, 2020, 09:43:05 AM »
I'm pretty sure our population isn't 10 times that of Germany, Italy, France, Spain, et al.

The demographic of each country is completely different

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4807 on: May 31, 2020, 09:49:46 AM »
"meaningless" with or without a question mark is not a word I would chose to use no matter how many deaths are recorded in this country or any other for that matter.
As a statistic it is surely meaningless to compare, for example, the amount of deaths in England vs Andorra?

Nobody is saying the deaths are meaningless, it is the statistic that has no value.
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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4808 on: May 31, 2020, 09:58:03 AM »
I'm pretty sure our population isn't 10 times that of Germany, Italy, France, Spain, et al.
So you're saying our deaths are 10 x Italy and Spain?

Offline Abbeyfealeavfc

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4809 on: May 31, 2020, 10:03:20 AM »
So you're now implying Andorra is an "average European country"?
You chose the words you do, all I'm saying is I would choose different words when talking about deaths.
The uk government has given up on comparing death rate figures with those of other countries anyway, so it's a moot point.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4810 on: May 31, 2020, 10:06:33 AM »
No I'm not.  I was simply questioning the validity of the stat that our deaths are 10 x the average European Country.  It's meaningless and that is what I was pointing out.

Offline BoVillan esq

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4811 on: May 31, 2020, 10:07:05 AM »
Its not meaningless, it certainly isn't natural, this whole thing is heavily manipulated, if the players feel this way its because a whole swath of the country feels the same, we went into lockdown with the government in a state of panic on the 23rd March, on that day according to government figures we recorded 74 deaths, we are still registering deaths per day in the hundreds and yet we are being rammed out of lockdown by the government and the media, way to fast, even some of sage scientist are now saying it, at the press conference yesterday the government openly lied, saying that the advice given by scientist as sage was the pace of coming out of lockdown was the right thing, of course, if you want to prove a point and have agreement to your cause, line up enough experts and you will find somebody that agrees with you.

The football season is restarting but it just doesn't feel right, the fact that when the whistle blows to start these games people will be dying and as the country goes into a very dangerous couple of weeks its distinctly possible we get a second spike, hell they are even talking about a third spike. Worth remembering as we speak on here there are nearly 1600 people in intensive care, 8,000 new infections each day, personally I am amazed the season has been re started, I can well understand player concern.         

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4812 on: May 31, 2020, 10:14:09 AM »
Whether the football season starting is right or not doesnít change the only point I made, which is that the quoted statistic is meaningless without the wider context of population size and density

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4813 on: May 31, 2020, 10:20:38 AM »
I'm talking about the emotional side of this, the right or wrong of it in terms of it being meaningless or not, believe me when this starts and the losses start coming in, teams start to realise they are going down, not qualifying for Europe, then we will see from both players and fans just how meaningful this is and just how wrong it is.

Get your point though.

Offline Abbeyfealeavfc

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4814 on: May 31, 2020, 10:38:42 AM »
You've got it BoVillan when you talk about the "emotional side"
The poster may or may not have a point regarding the stats, but there are certainly better ways of expressing that point instead of using words like "meaningless" in the same sentence as "deaths".
Any death is obviously emotive, certainly to the family and friends griefing, but in these strange times when there are so many deaths it is emotive to everybody, so choosing words carefully is very important.

 


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