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Author Topic: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?  (Read 287976 times)

Offline BoVillan esq

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4590 on: May 24, 2020, 09:03:32 PM »
I still can't see how, if any team is in anyway impacted by the virus, loss of player or players or staff, even just one player, how any resumption can be fair, lets say Jack went down with the virus, are they saying it doesn't matter, the season must be completed, Villa must work around Jacks absence, we all know the loss to Villa when Jack isn't there. 

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4591 on: May 24, 2020, 10:41:41 PM »
Once there is full contact training, or the games commence, and a player tests positive, Iím not clear what happens then. Do the whole squad and last opposition have to self isolate for 14 days? Isnít that what the trace, test, isolate plan all about? Or are they just going to ignore that?

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4592 on: May 24, 2020, 11:23:58 PM »
Watching the Bayern Munich game. Lots of fist bumping and high fives going on. Isn't that not allowed?

Considering they mark man tight at corners, I'm not sure what the point of the balony optics for social distancing of subs and teams in the warm up, celebrations etc
Watching subs and other staff making an attempt, a poor one, at wearing masks is laughable and as you said what's the point?

Offline exigo

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4593 on: May 25, 2020, 08:54:50 AM »
Few clubs looking into ways of having fans on big screens during games.

AFG Arhus virtual grandstand

Be a good way to dust off the Pride Reward points for our six home games.

Offline baddowvillans

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4594 on: May 25, 2020, 10:15:01 AM »
What is all this " man marking at corners " you speak of?  Is that something we could try!

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4595 on: May 25, 2020, 12:27:56 PM »
Once there is full contact training, or the games commence, and a player tests positive, Iím not clear what happens then. Do the whole squad and last opposition have to self isolate for 14 days? Isnít that what the trace, test, isolate plan all about? Or are they just going to ignore that?

This is all stuff that will be announced over the next few weeks as they move towards trying to restart, they will follow what happens in Germany and Spain

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4596 on: May 25, 2020, 12:46:17 PM »
Apparently the government are to allow close contact training, so why can't fans, those who have been tested and can prove they are negative, attend at the stadium?  It's sounds like another Cummins Law, you know?  One rule for them and another one for us?

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4597 on: May 25, 2020, 02:37:29 PM »
The players and the clubs are being led down a path one step at a time, with each step being a small leap.  The full truth of the situation is being kept from them so they can knock down one hurdle at a time with the weight of public opinion magnified by the self-interested media.

If even six weeks ago you had said this is where we will be in six weeks time and still have to sort this and that out, people would have said cancel the season now.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4598 on: May 25, 2020, 03:59:32 PM »
The players and the clubs are being led down a path one step at a time, with each step being a small leap.  The full truth of the situation is being kept from them so they can knock down one hurdle at a time with the weight of public opinion magnified by the self-interested media.

If even six weeks ago you had said this is where we will be in six weeks time and still have to sort this and that out, people would have said cancel the season now.

Do you ever get that feeling that somebody is looking over your shoulder.  No sooner had I posted the above and check the Telegraph sports pages and by coincidence I see:

Now is not the time for the Premier League to decide what happens if the season is curtailed
While it appears logical for the Premier League to debate this issue, doing so will only create greater confusion


JASON BURT
CHIEF FOOTBALL CORRESPONDENT

Who goes on to write:

"What all this suggests is that while it appears logical, and for the sake of clarity, for the Premier League to decide on what happens if the season is curtailed now it is probably not the right time to do so. Because it has not already taken place it is a discussion that can wait".

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4599 on: May 25, 2020, 07:39:08 PM »
Once there is full contact training, or the games commence, and a player tests positive, Iím not clear what happens then. Do the whole squad and last opposition have to self isolate for 14 days? Isnít that what the trace, test, isolate plan all about? Or are they just going to ignore that?

They will class any positive test as a normal injury & no doubt they will exclude anyone other than the infected player from isolating after all we are doing this for Ďthe morale of the nationí - on a couple of subscription tv channels obviously 🙄

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4600 on: May 26, 2020, 05:44:08 AM »
it seems to me if we do not play anymore games we will be relegated - I could not careless about taking the premier league to court, if that happens that will be next year at the earliest.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4601 on: May 26, 2020, 07:24:59 AM »
Fortunately I think our owners most certainly will go legal. 

I'm not a legal expert, but with no mention of PPG anywhere in the EPL handbook or even leaked to say that they have a pre-agreed model in the event of a curtailment you'd think a legal case against the EPL if they tried to enforce PPG would be on reasonably strong ground.  Your effectively being forced to forfeit an asset with hundreds of millions of pounds.  As part of the 5% EPL ownership they'd be binding contractual obligations on both sides, one of those being a season is played over 38 games and only at the end of a season being completed is there then relegation. Contractually can the EPL change these terms now? 

I still think if we play we'll be more than safe by the end of the season, just think we needed the break more than the others did.


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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4602 on: May 26, 2020, 10:29:23 AM »
Fortunately I think our owners most certainly will go legal. 

I'm not a legal expert, but with no mention of PPG anywhere in the EPL handbook or even leaked to say that they have a pre-agreed model in the event of a curtailment you'd think a legal case against the EPL if they tried to enforce PPG would be on reasonably strong ground.  Your effectively being forced to forfeit an asset with hundreds of millions of pounds.  As part of the 5% EPL ownership they'd be binding contractual obligations on both sides, one of those being a season is played over 38 games and only at the end of a season being completed is there then relegation. Contractually can the EPL change these terms now? 

I still think if we play we'll be more than safe by the end of the season, just think we needed the break more than the others did.



If everybody had played the same number of games. there'd at least be an argument for ending the season on that basis.  Of course there'd still be arguments about number of home and away games played and quality of opposition etc, but at least it would be a relatively level playing field. 

Points per game is utter bollocks though.  As I said earlier, looking at extreme examples, if this happened at the very start of the season, would you relegate a team for being on zero points if they hadn't played a game and everybody else had? Or say it's the very end of the season, and a team like Liverpool have 90 points and a plus 25 goal difference.  Man City have played one game less and are on 87 points with a plus 35 goal difference and a home game against Norwich to come.  Are you going to award the title to Liverpool on that basis?  (Extreme examples to illustrate the point, not actual real points).

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4603 on: May 26, 2020, 10:59:04 AM »
The grounds for legal action against PPG would be very strong.  There have been two different PPG calculations that have been mentioned and each gives a different 3rd from bottom team relegated.  So, whichever method you vote for is in reality voting for which team you want relegated, a very dangerous legal precedent to set.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #4604 on: May 26, 2020, 11:59:59 AM »
Happily, some lower-league teams are beginning to articulate their objections to ending the season in some mathematically-constructed or arbitrary way:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/may/25/barnsley-relegation-letter-efl

 


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