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Author Topic: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?  (Read 256124 times)

Offline Mister E

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1950 on: April 09, 2020, 08:48:46 AM »
My pal at the FA has told me they are planning on losing +£50m due to the Euros, FA cup and Playoffs.

The current PL idea is to have hub stadiums whereby four or five fixtures would be played each day over a three/four period, teams would then move on to the next hub for the next round. Games behind closed doors. Games played at neutral venues.

He also said that the PL were 'desperate' to play games as they would lose huge amounts of cash to the overseas market, SKY money is relatively small in comparison.
Well, for the fans who attend games, that is an absolutely terrible idea.
It again shows football kowtowing to TV and further undermines its integrity; sanitising the game, killing its spirit.
They would take that course of action and suffer the consequences of a mass walkaway from live football going forward.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2020, 12:27:47 PM by Mister E »

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1951 on: April 09, 2020, 09:04:43 AM »
Perhaps it’s on opportunity to take the brand to the world and play the games abroad, maybe China where there’s absolutely no Corona now.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1952 on: April 09, 2020, 09:05:24 AM »
I don't like the idea at all and yes, they're clearly worried about the TV money.

But whilst it is miles from perfect I'm not sure how it is less fair than finishing the season based on average points?  Or less fair than denying Liverpool the championship, Sheffield a shot at Champions league and Leeds & the Baggies promotion?  Is it less fair than allowing clubs to go to the wall due to lack of income?

Absolutely we lose our home advantage, so it certainly screws us over a bit.  But is it screwing us over more than the above?  At least we're being given a chance to play for our future with our second best player fully fit again, rather than having it imposed on us.  I'd much rather they void the season, but taking my claret specs off I don't see how it is so much worse than the other solutions.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1953 on: April 09, 2020, 09:20:39 AM »
all football is doing is eating itself and the game will never be the same again - which in many ways, will be a good thing. At he moment, the paymasters and authorities seem to be in a sort of James Bond world where the villain devises ever more tortuous and improbable ways of killing their adversary when a simple bullet would do. These fanciful ideas are bullshit and I would imagine be challenged in court. We have I think four home games left and there isn't a hope in hell that we will accept playing them behind 'closed doors' in other venues over a condensed period of time.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1954 on: April 09, 2020, 09:37:54 AM »
As is rightly recognised, this is all about money.
So, turn this on it’s head.

If, and it’s a massive if, this plan were to come to fruition. Would the Clubs refund every season ticket holder at every club for games they have paid for but cannot attend?


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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1955 on: April 09, 2020, 09:38:20 AM »
all football is doing is eating itself and the game will never be the same again - which in many ways, will be a good thing. At he moment, the paymasters and authorities seem to be in a sort of James Bond world where the villain devises ever more tortuous and improbable ways of killing their adversary when a simple bullet would do. These fanciful ideas are bullshit and I would imagine be challenged in court. We have I think four home games left and there isn't a hope in hell that we will accept playing them behind 'closed doors' in other venues over a condensed period of time.

6 homes and 4 aways for us.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1956 on: April 09, 2020, 09:39:07 AM »
I mentioned us being at a disadvantage with our game in hand which would have been at VP, and us having more H games than A, and he shrugged (he's FA not PL remember). It is as you fellas suggest, money driven, they PL are absolutely desperate to get the season finished and fulfill contractual obligations.
He also suggested that the FA fully expect a number of lower league clubs to go pop.

If I get any other info, I'll let you know.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1957 on: April 09, 2020, 09:42:22 AM »
And this latest ‘plan’ would have the best part of 200-300 people all sharing facilities over the course of each match day !

Surely this can only happen when the virus has been completely eradicated?

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1958 on: April 09, 2020, 09:51:36 AM »
As is rightly recognised, this is all about money.
So, turn this on it’s head.

If, and it’s a massive if, this plan were to come to fruition. Would the Clubs refund every season ticket holder at every club for games they have paid for but cannot attend?


I would have thought so, yes.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1959 on: April 09, 2020, 09:56:22 AM »
Because Germany and those who run the country recognise and respect the health care and spent and invested they of course (like their education , finance and general way of life and culture) are the most prepared for Corona virus. They have a health care system designed to cope.
Within Europe and the world they have the most suitable hospitals as well as most beds of critical care ICU beds and overall hospital  beds to deal with their population.
The number of cases of the virus are high but the survival rate from Corona virus is the highest anyway in the world.

Because of this and the fantastic discpline and organization  the German football clubs resumed training on Monday -
players split in small groups or pairs and kept at a safe distance amid strict measures to contain the spread of Covid-19

The Bundesliga and Bundesliga ii football will resume in May.
The Germans have done their calculations that around 240 essential personnel are required to put on an individual league game, from players to coaching staff to officiating crew to medical staff and beyond. The league has set up a task force to develop a logistical plan for putting on games safely, while another works on developing a “hygiene plan” to allow for repeated congregating during training and matches, also devising a plan for if someone involved tests positive.

This is of course realistic to Germany and can only have admiring glances to the way they have handled the situation both football but more importantly being a country that has taken health care with respect. If only the same was done by the UK government here for the NHS and systems for care.

So I don't see any football realistic time till after summer for the same in UK of top level football restarting. As the health care , discpline , culture and situation is entirely different to being a safe space to play football , even behind closed doors.

And I think it highlights a lot the merits of discipline and forward planning. Fair play to Germany .
« Last Edit: April 09, 2020, 10:00:00 AM by Vill I An »

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1960 on: April 09, 2020, 09:59:18 AM »
Because Germany and those who run the country recognise and respect the health care and spent and invested they of course (like their education , finance and general way of life and culture) are the most prepared for Corona virus. They have a health care system designed to cope.
Within Europe and the world they have the most suitable hospitals as well as most beds of critical care ICU beds and overall hospital  beds to deal with their population.
The number of cases of the virus are high but the survival rate from Corona virus is the highest anyway in the world.

Because of this and the fantastic discpline and organization  the German football clubs resumed training on Monday -
players split in small groups or pairs and kept at a safe distance amid strict measures to contain the spread of Covid-19

The Bundesliga and Bundesliga ii football will resume in May.
The Germans have done their calculations that around 240 essential personnel are required to put on an individual league game, from players to coaching staff to officiating crew to medical staff and beyond. The league has set up a task force to develop a logistical plan for putting on games safely, while another works on developing a “hygiene plan” to allow for repeated congregating during training and matches, also devising a plan for if someone involved tests positive.

This is of course realistic to Germany and can only have admiring glances to the way they have handled the situation both football but more importantly being a country that has taken health care with respect and not back health  workers like they do here in UK with.

So I don't see a realistic time frame soon for the same in UK of top level football restarting. As the health care , discpline , culture and situation is entirely different to being a safe space to play football , even behind closed doors.

And I think it highlights a lot the merits of discipline and forward planning. Fair play to Germany .


I think the German authorities should be concentrating on keeping their people well and alive rather than thinking about playing football. It may be better in Germany than in the UK, but the situation is getting increasingly worse.




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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1961 on: April 09, 2020, 10:05:29 AM »
I've revised my post reply here.
Sure I take the point you make and yes Germany and every country should be putting health of people first .It's important lives are saved of course.

I guess I was just highlighting the point to my post  is the health care 'allows' the chance for sport in Germany to take place. In scheme of things that can sound like people aren't caring about lives and the virus. I'm Sorry if I offended you in any way.

That can't be said for the England and the football had to take a back step.

My point stands in that if any big league in Europe  can put on football then it's the German nation.
England at this time aren't equipped and in comparison Germany are.

How is life and situations for you in Poland .
All the very best at this time to you.

Appreciate the graph you shared to give the info and although interesting its of course all So sad at this time.

Best wishes
« Last Edit: April 09, 2020, 10:22:22 AM by Vill I An »

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1962 on: April 09, 2020, 10:18:39 AM »
The point here isn't a debate about keeping people alive which I think you'll find every authority is actually trying their best to do . Germany , UK or other nations. It's important lives are saved of course.

The point to the post  is the health care 'allows' the chance for sport in Germany to take place.

That can't be said for the England and the football had to take a back step.

I don't think the German Government will put people's lives at risk or strain their services just to play sports .
However if any big league in Europe  can put on football then it's the German nation.

England at this time aren't equipped and in comparison Germany are.

Germany and its approach to its people are a very different mentality, example, they know for a fact that these testing kits are vital to preventing deaths and stopping infection, as much as possible, the Germans have been stockpiling them for years in the eventuality and reality that a crisis such as a Pandemic will hit the planet at some point, the UK have done nothing, Germany in comparison to the UK are a very Socialist  Democratic country, people come first, I worked there for a while and was amazed at the difference and the pride in that difference.     

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1963 on: April 09, 2020, 10:38:45 AM »
Bovillian on Germany ways of life - in football terms over in Dortmund they are a great example for how they develop players as well as pre and post match atmosphere.

You know how unless it's a 'meaningful' game (for eg derby, cup match , 'big' match though all games are meaningful no?) the fans here in England tend not to hang around and certainly don't stay for time chanting

The German way the fans stay around and celebrate the match.
Similar with pre match the fans can be whopping up at atmosphere an hour before kick off.
Interesting cultures isn't it.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1964 on: April 09, 2020, 10:51:17 AM »
And this latest ‘plan’ would have the best part of 200-300 people all sharing facilities over the course of each match day !

Surely this can only happen when the virus has been completely eradicated?

The players should refuse to put themselves in such danger.

 


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