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Author Topic: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?  (Read 256295 times)

Offline Vill I An

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1935 on: April 08, 2020, 06:24:08 PM »
To prevent many players going unpaid at lower league levels it's not impossible that the government will be funding players wages when the clubs start furloughing playing staff for costs

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1936 on: April 08, 2020, 06:31:53 PM »
That game in hand we hold is our trump card. You can't decide relegation places if you've got an extra fixture over rival teams. I'm sure Villa would launch a law suit to challenge any unfair decision.
Watford 3 - 0 Liverpool.
That's the killer argument in respect of points-averaging or any other way of second-guessing the season;s outcomes.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1937 on: April 08, 2020, 06:32:51 PM »
I think there’s a chance that clubs will go under across all divisions. So in the PL that could be a Burnley or a Bournemouth or a Palace. In lower divisions it could be any club, large or small.

So if that happens, how could the season be finished?

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1938 on: April 08, 2020, 07:34:17 PM »
That game in hand we hold is our trump card. You can't decide relegation places if you've got an extra fixture over rival teams. I'm sure Villa would launch a law suit to challenge any unfair decision.
Watford 3 - 0 Liverpool.
That's the killer argument in respect of points-averaging or any other way of second-guessing the season;s outcomes.

I think Watford have spent far longer in the bottom 3 than Villa this season. Perhaps you could base it on weeks spent in the botom 3 over the season so far? I reckon we'd be out of the bottom 3 on that basis!

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1939 on: April 08, 2020, 09:09:22 PM »
I miss shouting really loudly in public, often with thousands of others.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1940 on: April 08, 2020, 09:22:40 PM »
That game in hand we hold is our trump card. You can't decide relegation places if you've got an extra fixture over rival teams. I'm sure Villa would launch a law suit to challenge any unfair decision.
Watford 3 - 0 Liverpool.
That's the killer argument in respect of points-averaging or any other way of second-guessing the season;s outcomes.

I think Watford have spent far longer in the bottom 3 than Villa this season. Perhaps you could base it on weeks spent in the botom 3 over the season so far? I reckon we'd be out of the bottom 3 on that basis!

To be honest that's probably fairer than adding average points. We're in the bottom 3 because of a rearranged fixture and a run of poor results, but even 2 weeks earlier we'd have been safely out of the bottom 3 on the same measure and 1 win changes things again. It's still a poor option though because whatever you do someone is going to feel they've been relegated unfairly.

For that reason any plan which results  in relegation after only playing 3/4s of the season would be completely unacceptable and would see legal challenges.

Likewise playing behind closed doors nullifies home and away and puts teams like us with more homes than aways to play at a disadvantage so again I don't see how the league could be considered fairly resolved in that regard.  Add to that the likelihood that preperations for games would be hindered and VAR would probably not be used and you're making too many fundamental changes during the season that can have an impact. Again I don't see it as an acceptable solution.

I think they have realistic 2 options, you void the season or you play it out. Even then playing out the season after a 3-4month break is like having a new mini season and comes with a whole host of problems of it's own. It's a tough call but I still think the most sensible option is the abandon the season and try to get back to 'normal' as quickly as possible next year. I know that has it's own issues but if the choice is between sporting legitimacy or finance then the integrity of the game in the long run requires the decision to ensure fairness and voiding is the best option for that.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1941 on: April 08, 2020, 09:28:07 PM »
Abandon it for me, but if it is continued at least we will have McGinn and Heaton back. Those sort of factors cannot be incorporated into future virtually-predicted stats.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1942 on: April 08, 2020, 09:35:37 PM »
Abandon it for me, but if it is continued at least we will have McGinn and Heaton back. Those sort of factors cannot be incorporated into future virtually-predicted stats.

Heaton isn't registered.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1943 on: April 08, 2020, 09:36:40 PM »
Abandon it for me, but if it is continued at least we will have McGinn and Heaton back. Those sort of factors cannot be incorporated into future virtually-predicted stats.

Maybe no Heaton, he wasn't included in the squad list after January. That's another thing that makes the long gap questionable, clearly we'd have included him if there was a chance he'd play the last 10 games.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1944 on: April 08, 2020, 09:43:49 PM »
Didn't realise that. Cheers.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1945 on: April 08, 2020, 11:20:26 PM »
You can't change the rules of any competition before it's finished. A match that gets abandoned has to be played again and the same should apply here.

That seems so obvious to me so why isn't anybody questioning on what legal grounds can they change the rules.  Answer that and you rule out any of these suggested 'out of the ordinary' ways of finishing the season without actually finishing it.  You are then down to completing the season or the season is cancelled.  Then put together a realistic time frame for completing and if we cannot get up and running by the date required, the season is cancelled.  All this about cancelling next season would still be open to legal challenge by teams relegated from the PL on the basis of how long it would take them to be able to try and get promoted, together will the lost revenue from next season for other clubs.

If a decision is made which results in a legal challenge, that will be it for football as the first thing that will get slapped in will be an injunction to prevent the season restarting.

I have not seen anything about insurance.  Who is covered for what?  Are the TV companies covered if they cannot broadcast and are the clubs covered if they do not get the broadcasting money?

We all want to see the season finished but in a reasonable time.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1946 on: April 09, 2020, 12:43:12 AM »
As I see this, these are extraordinary circumstances.

The only way it can be resolved is by way of an extraordinary meeting.  In the case of the season being impossible to complete (save for aborting next season), it seems reasonable that the clubs will vote on the way to end the season. ie void it, finish it as it is or average out points.

Voiding it seems the most obvious but I wouldn't write off the ability to change the rules to suit the circumstances.

I think they're hoping that the season can be completed behind closed doors later in the summer.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1947 on: April 09, 2020, 06:07:23 AM »
Void the season, give Liverpool an extraordinary vote to give them the championship, open up the champions league to 2 more clubs and have more preliminaries and an extra place to Europa and hope to get next season done by next May. Considering the in-fighting we've seen over money from football I can't see them agreeing on anything else as they're all so self-centred. No way would any club accept relegation and the EPL (I die a little each time I type that) calls all the shots realistically, so Leeds and the Boggies will have to wait.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1948 on: April 09, 2020, 08:25:53 AM »
My pal at the FA has told me they are planning on losing +£50m due to the Euros, FA cup and Playoffs.

The current PL idea is to have hub stadiums whereby four or five fixtures would be played each day over a three/four period, teams would then move on to the next hub for the next round. Games behind closed doors. Games played at neutral venues.

He also said that the PL were 'desperate' to play games as they would lose huge amounts of cash to the overseas market, SKY money is relatively small in comparison.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #1949 on: April 09, 2020, 08:46:04 AM »
My pal at the FA has told me they are planning on losing +£50m due to the Euros, FA cup and Playoffs.

The current PL idea is to have hub stadiums whereby four or five fixtures would be played each day over a three/four period, teams would then move on to the next hub for the next round. Games behind closed doors. Games played at neutral venues.

He also said that the PL were 'desperate' to play games as they would lose huge amounts of cash to the overseas market, SKY money is relatively small in comparison.

There is no fair way of completing the season now, whatever happens some parties will be feeling aggrieved.

If the above is true, pecuniary interests are their only concern.

 


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