Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[Mac]

Now I definitely know who LG is.  \/

What are you doing in Huddersfield?

[Laughing Gravity]

I'm disappointed in you Mac. You are breaking your own rules. I thought you at least had more integrity.

[Chris Smith]

I'm merely pointing out that the people, ST supporters, slagging off VFC have to look to themselves as to why VFC is necessary.

So it's memebers of the Trust that make an anti-Ellis pressure group necessary?

As you said earlier nobody is listening to the VFC, so why not engage the brain and try something different?

[Mac]

I'm disappointed in you Mac. You are breaking your own rules. I thought you at least had more integrity.

That's  not what you normally say.

[Laughing Gravity]

As you said earlier nobody is listening to the VFC, so why not engage the brain and try something different?

Because if at first you don't succeed...

What did the ST ask at the last AGM and how many paid up members are there? Are they losing popularity?

[Mac]

And if I'm not mistaken, you're banned.

Email me and we'll discuss it off line.

[Laughing Gravity]

That's not what you normally say.

I've argued with you but always respected you. You've let me down. I thought you had integrity.

[Simon Barron]

What did the SA members think of their Chairman walking out before the end of the meeting and therefore being unable to represent their views fully?

Maybe walking out was the best representation of their views.

Ooo ST don't like criticism.

So how many fully paid up members are there in the ST? Are their numbers dwindling because they don't have the support they used to?

Did they ask any questions at the AGM?

Do they have a view on the Ellis health situation and takeover offers that the club ARE considering according to Ellis?

I'm sure that constructive criticism is always welcome.  However, this would probably be best addressed to the Exec rather than posting on a public message board and hoping that one of them reads it.

I'm also not sure what bringing the ST into the debate does other than muddy the waters.  If members aren't happy with the direction, aims and communications then there are a number of things that they can do.

I'm not sure why a non-member is unhappy at how the ST represents the views of it's members.

[Mac]

Laughing Gravity has left the building.

He's still banned from before.

[Risso]

Laughing Gravity has left the building.

He's still banned from before.

That's a shame, he hasn't looked like he's said anything unreasonable this time round.  What does he need to do to get unbanned?

[Chris Smith]

Because if at first you don't succeed...

But waht if after several goes you don't succeed?

Trotting out the same lines at every opportunity is becoming counter-productive because they are alienating the very people they are supposed to be winning over. That weakens their message so that it becomes cliched sloganeering.

[Risso]

Trotting out the same lines at every opportunity is becoming counter-productive because they are alienating the very people they are supposed to be winning over.

Do you know that that's the case Chris?  The fact that the statements get picked to bits on here, doesn't mean that they don't have broader support amongst other Villa supporters.  It doesn't mean that they do of course, but that's the point, I don't think we should take the views from here as necessarily indicative of Villa fans on the whole.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Laughing Gravity has left the building.

He's still banned from before.

What was his previous moniker?

[dave.woodhall]

I'm not sure why a non-member is unhappy at how the ST represents the views of it's members.

Because he, in this and previous aliases, has never done anything in this type of debate except pick a 'side' and make puerile remarks about its perceived opposition. He was doing it years ago, and he hasn't grown up from then.

[Laughing Gravity]

I have NEVER been banned before.

I have some contentious views but I have NEVER been banned before.

Outrageous Mac.

You have let yourself down big time.