Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[Laughing Gravity]

No its on 14.

I predicted 21.

[Laughing Gravity]

Sorry 15.

[Chris Smith]

We seem to be getting off the point here. The public persona of Doug Ellis is that of a man difficult to like. He appears vain, egotistical and patronising in the extreme. However that isn't the real issue, it's how he performs the roles of Chairman and Chief Executive that is important.

On the plus side he has built a stable and solvent club. That in itself doesn't sound like a lot, but for those of us of a certain age it is a huge improvement on what went before. However he has also shown that he cannot do what is needed to take the next step. That might not be entirely his fault but after 20 odd years in charge the buck stops with him.

If those who actively seek his removal were to stick to the issues (and brush up on their timing) they might find that they receive less hostility.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I reckon Chris has summed it up quite nicely.

[shipscat]

my wonder is how we'll judge villa since the start of the premiership in ten years time.i hope we won't all have rose tinted specs and the benefit of hindsight,in the words of sam cooke,a change is gonna come,crystal balls anyone?

[Disco Stu]

Ansell saying that he had to get's Doug's say so for ordering stationery

Ansell said lots of things over the years.

Most of the time he was utterly contemptuous of the club’s supporters and absolutely craven in his devotion to Doug.

Now that Ansell is apparently the fount of all knowledge, are we to assume VFC is in agreement with the former deputy-chief executive’s well documented hagiographic view of Doug?  

Anyway, let’s get this thread back on topic, which is not Ellis but VFC’s attempt to once again ruin even the semblance of a Villa feel-good factor.

[Laughing Gravity]

According to the experts now speaking about Doug, Ansell was really running Villa at one point and Doug was taking a backseat. I bow to their superior knowledge about all things Doug.

The feel good factor lasts until the Wigan result, it might contine after, it might not.

[Mac]

I thought the VFC were taking the credit for getting Ansell the sack because of the major (sic) criticisms of him in their Hodgson report?
Are they now best buddies?

This is why I find the VFC hard to take seriously.  They flip-flop their position on everything when it suits them.

[Oscar Goldman]

According to the experts now speaking about Doug, Ansell was really running Villa at one point and Doug was taking a backseat. I bow to their superior knowledge about all things Doug.

The feel good factor lasts until the Wigan result, it might contine after, it might not.

According to many sources Ansell was doing most of the driving but apparently got a bit too big for his boots and forgot who owned the car.

Of course, any sort of feel good factor does not suit VFC’s agenda and no doubt Fear and his supporter(s) will be cheering Wigan on with gusto on Saturday afternoon.

[Laughing Gravity]

The feel-good factor has nothing to do with VFC. If Villa lose to Wigan the knives will be out again. That's what happens.

Ansell was driving? Not a chance.

[Mazrim]

On the plus side he has built a stable and solvent club.

That BASTARD!

He's built a stable and then the horses from said stable go to the Solvent club. Thus becoming Bostik!

Dastardly evil genius is Count Dougula.

[Risso]

I thought the VFC were taking the credit for getting Ansell the sack because of the major (sic) criticisms of him in their Hodgson report?
Are they now best buddies?

This is why I find the VFC hard to take seriously.  They flip-flop their position on everything when it suits them.

Where have VFC said they're best buddies with Ansell Mac?  And as for for flip flopping position, how about looking a bit closer to home?

[dave.woodhall]

Two sides, one who rightly dispise Ellis and the other who a few years ago in an ego battle with "Ellis Out" "VFC" or its supporters suggested that Ellis is not all that bad, now feel oblidged to defend that position even if they feel not entirely comfortable doing it.

Ellis is an interferer, regardless of interviews with some ex-managers who may may not have wanted to paint themselves in the best light, he can't help himself. End of story.

I haven't had an 'ego battle' with anyone.

And I've been given two sides of the story of (say) Ron Atkinson's time at Villa Park. I chose his. Should I have chosen yours?

[Risso]

And I've been given two sides of the story of (say) Ron Atkinson's time at Villa Park. I chose his. Should I have chosen yours?

His version posted on that blog seems to contradict what he told you Dave.

[Oscar Goldman]

The feel-good factor has nothing to do with VFC.

Well done.  You’ve managed to grasp a simple point for once although most likely by accident.

As you rightly suggest, VFC is all about creating a feel-bad factor.