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Author Topic: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread  (Read 13713 times)

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #345 on: February 17, 2020, 06:00:15 PM »


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I winced again re the Engels mistake when watching motd2 on catch up this morning, but itís gone now. Someone else posted itís probably too late in the season to start cutting out the things that have been going wrong, mistakes etc, not to say we shouldnít try...but I think thatís probably right, and weíre going to have to hope our attacking flair pays dividends in 3 or 4 games out of the 12 to go.

Indeed. 

Bournemouth have been largely bollocks defensively since they came up, but they have managed to survive each season since 2015.

I don't expect us to suddenly get good defensively.  Hopefully a bit less shit might suffice.

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #346 on: February 17, 2020, 06:07:53 PM »
I dream of us being defensively a bit less shit.

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #347 on: February 17, 2020, 07:59:52 PM »
As gutting as the result & the manner of the goal was, we played really well for that first 30 mins & should have been 3 up.

Following that we were wide open, I lost count of the number of times we were opened up & left 2 on 2 or 3 on 3 at the back. I think Jenas picked up on it on MOTD. We can't defend because we don't defend & against a quick mobile forward line it gets shown up.

Hopefully fortune favours the brave, but we don't help ourselves & it'll go to the last day.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #348 on: February 17, 2020, 09:09:39 PM »
I don't know why there is so much moaning. I saw some really good stuff yesterday at Villa Park; great technique, consistent quality and composure under pressure.

Well done to all the "Prize where it lies" contestants.

Forgot about that! I think it took the collective will of those still watching to get that one to stop in time.

The initial reaction of the guy on the mike was "this is getting too easy, we'll have to move the mat back".  Good to see the spirit of Doug alive and well!!

Offline Ditton33

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #349 on: February 17, 2020, 09:11:21 PM »
Interesting that the guys on MOTD2 picked up on our defensive failings. Huge holes in our back line just asking to be exploited by quick, clever forwards on the break. Considering we supposedly have one of the best PL defenders on our coaching staff it does beg the question why we are so vulnerable at the back. Even with Mings playing we've still conceded far too many goals this season. I still think we will be safe but its going to be a bumpy ride over the coming months!

Offline brontebilly

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #350 on: February 17, 2020, 10:24:50 PM »
Interesting that the guys on MOTD2 picked up on our defensive failings. Huge holes in our back line just asking to be exploited by quick, clever forwards on the break. Considering we supposedly have one of the best PL defenders on our coaching staff it does beg the question why we are so vulnerable at the back. Even with Mings playing we've still conceded far too many goals this season. I still think we will be safe but its going to be a bumpy ride over the coming months!

That defender has little or no coaching experience unfortunately. But the biggest problem is in midfield, we have been getting overran there all season. No matter what combination or what personnel. Drinkwater is laughably poor but it was a problem long before he was brought in.

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #351 on: February 18, 2020, 11:47:04 AM »
Why is Smith blaming VAR? Ok, he might be a bit pissed off but the blame is on a Premier League footballer who can't trap a ball he's watched coming at him for half the pitch.

It's a tough one. Calling Engels out wouldn't have helped though and deflecting the blame onto VAR just helps to let him deal with the performance errors behind closed doors.

Things like the VAR decision are real issues in the game, technically a penalty, but not a clear and obvious error.

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #352 on: February 18, 2020, 01:00:57 PM »
Apparently Son broke his arm in the first minute. Just our luck he toughed it out for the last 93 minutes!

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #353 on: February 18, 2020, 01:16:12 PM »
Jesus Christ.

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #354 on: February 18, 2020, 01:37:26 PM »
Apparently Son broke his arm in the first minute. Just our luck he toughed it out for the last 93 minutes!

 Bizarre,  ended an op too!

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #355 on: February 18, 2020, 03:20:09 PM »
Saw Smith's VAR rant on MOTD2 - unnecessary and not the reason we lost. Still baffled how we can have 2 former defenders as coaches and can't get this sorted. The inconsistency and lack of concentration are killing us. On a positive - love Samata's attitude and ability - he'll do well.

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #356 on: February 18, 2020, 03:31:30 PM »
Saw Smith's VAR rant on MOTD2 - unnecessary and not the reason we lost. Still baffled how we can have 2 former defenders as coaches and can't get this sorted. The inconsistency and lack of concentration are killing us. On a positive - love Samata's attitude and ability - he'll do well.


Think it was Risso that said it and he was right, the problem is mostly with our midfield. Yes Engels made a horrific individual error but they were under pressure all game with Spurs totally bypassing our midfield, eventually most players will crack under sustained pressure, there's a mistake in everyone.

There's no protection in general for the centre-halves and it's been a massive recurring problem in our season. The amount of times we concede possession in the middle of the park from unforced errors, and the subsequent chances presented to the opposition, is the source of most of our woes.

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #357 on: February 18, 2020, 04:10:54 PM »
Saw Smith's VAR rant on MOTD2 - unnecessary and not the reason we lost. Still baffled how we can have 2 former defenders as coaches and can't get this sorted. The inconsistency and lack of concentration are killing us. On a positive - love Samata's attitude and ability - he'll do well.


Think it was Risso that said it and he was right, the problem is mostly with our midfield. Yes Engels made a horrific individual error but they were under pressure all game with Spurs totally bypassing our midfield, eventually most players will crack under sustained pressure, there's a mistake in everyone.

There's no protection in general for the centre-halves and it's been a massive recurring problem in our season. The amount of times we concede possession in the middle of the park from unforced errors, and the subsequent chances presented to the opposition, is the source of most of our woes.

Itís a recurring theme and one he is not going to address.

So itís a white knuckle ride every game.

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #358 on: February 18, 2020, 04:26:43 PM »
Can't fault the general performance on Sunday but DS subs were shite and silly mistakes again cost us.
Southampton is again a 'must win' but we have had so many now and failed . Can only see us going down with our run of fixtures

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Re: Aston Villa v Spurs Post Match Thread
« Reply #359 on: February 18, 2020, 06:36:45 PM »
Can't fault the general performance on Sunday but DS subs were shite and silly mistakes again cost us.
Southampton is again a 'must win' but we have had so many now and failed . Can only see us going down with our run of fixtures

In what way were the subs shite?