Losing to Bournemouth twice, Watford away and dropping points v West Ham is what ultimately is going to relegate us. It’s our own bloody fault. Not been good enough and we’ve crumbled.
Quote from: chrisw1 on July 02, 2020, 08:48:00 AMQuote from: sickbeggar on July 02, 2020, 08:30:52 AMOnly consolation i can see is since we've returned we've lost to teams who are miles better than us If anything on form, newcastle and sheffield united look good results. Anything from Liverpool and ManU would be a miracle, so really its down to 4 games where the chances of a win are more than a fluke. Palace and arsenal are must wins. A draw at everton is possible. 34 points at a nervous/safe west ham for the final game? Doable.How does Sheffield look a good result? Forgetting their position in the table they've been dreadful since the restart and were absolutely there for the taking. Our failure to capitalise on that opportunity is probably what will ultimately cost us.Yes, you're right, our season all comes down to only getting a draw at home to Sheffield United, who were in the Top 7 when we played them in the first game anyone had played in 100 days..
Quote from: sickbeggar on July 02, 2020, 08:30:52 AMOnly consolation i can see is since we've returned we've lost to teams who are miles better than us If anything on form, newcastle and sheffield united look good results. Anything from Liverpool and ManU would be a miracle, so really its down to 4 games where the chances of a win are more than a fluke. Palace and arsenal are must wins. A draw at everton is possible. 34 points at a nervous/safe west ham for the final game? Doable.How does Sheffield look a good result? Forgetting their position in the table they've been dreadful since the restart and were absolutely there for the taking. Our failure to capitalise on that opportunity is probably what will ultimately cost us.
Only consolation i can see is since we've returned we've lost to teams who are miles better than us If anything on form, newcastle and sheffield united look good results. Anything from Liverpool and ManU would be a miracle, so really its down to 4 games where the chances of a win are more than a fluke. Palace and arsenal are must wins. A draw at everton is possible. 34 points at a nervous/safe west ham for the final game? Doable.
For me our record v top 6/7 is more reason if we go down. In normal seasons it wouldn't matter so much but every other week one of our rivals is getting a "shock" win v them. All the more pathetic when you see how many times we were leading v one of them in the second half and we couldn't even close out a draw.
Quote from: VinnieChase84 on July 02, 2020, 10:28:04 AMLosing to Bournemouth twice, Watford away and dropping points v West Ham is what ultimately is going to relegate us. It’s our own bloody fault. Not been good enough and we’ve crumbled. Also Southampton away. A vital game we threw away as the players weren’t prepared to scrap and risk injury with the big glory final a week away. One of the first glimpses that Jack had seen enough too.
I sense that there's results being attributed to other sides that haven't happened. Mini league since the restart Edited, now with shots/on target tacked on West Ham P3 W1 D0 L2 F3 A6 27/8 Aston Villa P4 W0 D2 L2 F2 A4 47/13 Watford P3 W0 D1 L2 F2 A5 26/9 B'mouth P3 W0 D0 L3 F1 A7 28/2 Norwich P3 W0 D0 L3 F0 A8 26/4 I can't square this circle of apparently having no fight or bottle compared to our immediate peers when we've conceded the fewest goals (including the only clean sheet in the 16 games played so far) and had the most efforts.
Worth noting though that if Mings hadn't scored in 94th minute in the Watford home game they'd be four clear of us so things could be worse.For me our record v top 6/7 is more reason if we go down. In normal seasons it wouldn't matter so much but every other week one of our rivals is getting a "shock" win v them. All the more pathetic when you see how many times we were leading v one of them in the second half and we couldn't even close out a draw.Draws v Liverpool and Spurs at home and we'd be 17th.
Quote from: Lastfootstamper on July 02, 2020, 04:07:43 AMI sense that there's results being attributed to other sides that haven't happened. Mini league since the restart Edited, now with shots/on target tacked on West Ham P3 W1 D0 L2 F3 A6 27/8 Aston Villa P4 W0 D2 L2 F2 A4 47/13 Watford P3 W0 D1 L2 F2 A5 26/9 B'mouth P3 W0 D0 L3 F1 A7 28/2 Norwich P3 W0 D0 L3 F0 A8 26/4 I can't square this circle of apparently having no fight or bottle compared to our immediate peers when we've conceded the fewest goals (including the only clean sheet in the 16 games played so far) and had the most efforts.I'm in agreement here - relative to the sides around us, I think we've done alright since the restart. We've had the hardest set of games out of any of the bottom 5, with the possible exception of West Ham.Bournemouth look done for now. Norwich have a relatively good set of fixtures for the run-in, but I suspect they might've just given themselves a bit too much to do. West Ham have a relatively easy run in too, and seem to be doing alright. Think the battle will be between ourselves and Watford. Of those, I'd rather be in our shoes than their's in every matter except the number of points we're starting on.
Aftab- I’ve spent the last couple of weeks looking out for other teams’ results and checking the table. After West Ham beat Chelsea I told myself enough’ enough of that. Down to us now to scrape home. Fk everyone else, although Watford look like getting dragged in now...
Well, Watford's run of Chelsea, Norwich, Newcastle, WHam, ManC & Arsenal, could be a run of draws, other than Norwich. So that's 4 draws, 1 win and a loss to ManC7 pointsWHam that win and a handful of draws will see them safeUs... 7 points at bestB'mouth are in a very sticky situationSo Mystic Postal has spoken, it's B'mouth and us, Watford safe by a point....