Louie Barry (on loan to Sheffield United)

[wittonwarrior]

His return record last season wasn’t great with just 3 goals from 50 appearances including off the bench.

[VillaTim]

Wasn't he supposed to be the next Michael Owen type player

[Risso]

I think we got a bit excited that he came from Barcelona and that we got one up on the Baggies when he left, but other than the League Cup goal, he really hasn't lived up to the hype. I'm much more interested to see how Rory Wilson progresses.

[Gareth]

I think we got a bit excited that he came from Barcelona and that we got one up on the Baggies when he left, but other than the League Cup goal, he really hasn't lived up to the hype. I'm much more interested to see how Rory Wilson progresses.

Likewise you have to think how going from Smethwick to Barcelona and the expectation ramped on when he came back to us will have messed with anyone’s head…imagine he had/has some growing up to do.

Def wouldn’t write him off but this is a massive year for him because as you say eyes have already started to switch to Wilson, Kellyman, Young etc…if he doesn’t flourish this year you can see he’ll have to do it all from lower leagues

[Risso]

I think we got a bit excited that he came from Barcelona and that we got one up on the Baggies when he left, but other than the League Cup goal, he really hasn't lived up to the hype. I'm much more interested to see how Rory Wilson progresses.

Likewise you have to think how going from Smethwick to Barcelona and the expectation ramped on when he came back to us will have messed with anyone’s head…imagine he had/has some growing up to do.

Def wouldn’t write him off but this is a massive year for him because as you say eyes have already started to switch to Wilson, Kellyman, Young etc…if he doesn’t flourish this year you can see he’ll have to do it all from lower leagues

Exactly that. He might not be a bad player but there are younger kids ahead of him in the Villa production line, and that's a difficult position to reverse.

[algy]

Think folk have written him off a bit quickly, development-wise he's playing at a higher level than Cam Archer was at the same age. That said, he really needs to start kicking on if he's to make it as a Premier League player.

[pablo_picasso]

Think folk have written him off a bit quickly, development-wise he's playing at a higher level than Cam Archer was at the same age. That said, he really needs to start kicking on if he's to make it as a Premier League player.

The problem is, he has regressed in every loan he has had.

Nobody wants him to fail, & Im pretty sure all of us who question him would love to be wrong, its just the signs are not positive...

[Risso]

Think folk have written him off a bit quickly, development-wise he's playing at a higher level than Cam Archer was at the same age.

No he isn't. Barry has just turned 20, and is about to play in League 2. When Archer had just turned 20, he was back at Aston Villa, and then went to Preston on loan in the Championship. Archer is still only 21.

[Dogtanian]

Well, to be fair to him, he got six goal contributions last season across his two loans. When you look at his minutes played, it works out to one every 3.8 games. Not too bad for a 19yo whose had to settle into new clubs twice.

I think his first loan at Ipswich was ruined because they signed him and then bought a shed load of other players and so he wasn’t used. He went to Swindon and got a goal contribution every two games on minutes played.

Not sure what happened at MK Dons, but they shouldn’t exist anyway, so maybe it was some sort of existential crisis. And then at Salford he was one of their penalty takers in their playoff semi, which suggests they didn’t think he was that bad.

He’s now signed for the team he played against in that semi, so again, he must be doing something right.

It would be nice to see him in a team for a full season so he can settle and get some consistency and form.

[Dogtanian]

Looking at the MK Dons season, they lost 15 games and only won 6 while he was there, didn’t score in their first 3 games, and scoring only 21 goals (four of which in a thrashing of Morecambe). So it’s safe to say the whole team was poor and not exactly helping him to shine.

He did do this for them against the Rams, though;

[Risso]

My mate's an MK Dons season ticket holder, and they were a mess all season, especially right at the end where they 4-1 up at Barnsley, and ended up drawing 4-4, a result that helped send them down. I don't know anything about Stockport, but hopefully they're well run and he can have a good season there and gain some confidence. The right team for loans seems to be very important. Aaron Ramsey seems to have thrived at Boro, whereas Iroegbunam had a very hard time at a poor QPR side.

[pablo_picasso]

My mate's an MK Dons season ticket holder, and they were a mess all season, especially right at the end where they 4-1 up at Barnsley, and ended up drawing 4-4, a result that helped send them down. I don't know anything about Stockport, but hopefully they're well run and he can have a good season there and gain some confidence. The right team for loans seems to be very important. Aaron Ramsey seems to have thrived at Boro, whereas Iroegbunam had a very hard time at a poor QPR side.

But only after Beale left & he had to deal with managers at the level of Critchley...

With Beale, he was a beast for them.

[Risso]

My mate's an MK Dons season ticket holder, and they were a mess all season, especially right at the end where they 4-1 up at Barnsley, and ended up drawing 4-4, a result that helped send them down. I don't know anything about Stockport, but hopefully they're well run and he can have a good season there and gain some confidence. The right team for loans seems to be very important. Aaron Ramsey seems to have thrived at Boro, whereas Iroegbunam had a very hard time at a poor QPR side.

But only after Beale left & he had to deal with managers at the level of Critchley...

With Beale, he was a beast for them.

That was probably only about a dozen games though.

[pablo_picasso]

22.

Half a season...

The shit show that happened after he left, didn't help Iroegbunam, but he was still one of their better players.

Although he wasn't amazing when they tried pushing him further forward.

[Risso]

22.

Half a season...

The shit show that happened after he left, didn't help Iroegbunam, but he was still one of their better players.

Although he wasn't amazing when they tried pushing him further forward.

That can’t be right, Beale left at the end of November.