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Offline vilan461

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #150 on: January 19, 2020, 10:36:48 AM »
Much improved 2nd half. It's amazing what more work rate and determination can bring to a team. We were more aggressive and positive in and out of possession. Gives me a little hope that we can stay up.
Fully agree--work rate detetmination a little bit of blood sweat and pride is whats needed to get out of the bottom 3.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #151 on: January 19, 2020, 10:43:42 AM »

 and what's the point of a pack of pyro dogs that cannot sniff out pyro?


They were sniffing for drugs I was told - shortly after one of them started jumping up and sniffing me and I was taken aside to a special area for a thorough searching by 2 security blokes. Nothing found, of course, but not the sort of thing you expect to happen to you in front of your 13 year old son. They weren't coppers, I asked if they were authorised to be so thorough ( they were leafing through my wallet, opening up receipts etc) but the angrier I got, the more they seemed to enjoy doing it.

Anyway, I said before the game that I'd take a point

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #152 on: January 19, 2020, 10:55:48 AM »
I thought they were "drugs dogs" as well. It would be a pretty stupid waste of funding to go to the extremes of training and implementing dogs on matchdays just to sniff out a glorified smoke bomb.

Personally, I think the drug dogs are a little bit OTT as well.  People can arrive after a 3 or 4 hour boozing session but a bit of personal weed/coke whatever is strictly forbidden. Yes, I accept drugs are illegal but in the grand scheme of things, why pick on travelling away fans to conduct these searches? How many people are caught by these dogs? It just doesn't weigh up to me. Yesterday, we had to go past 2 different sets of dogs to get to the turnstiles - That's at least 4 dogs (and handlers) that I saw. How much did this cost? What is their ultimate aim?

I suppose that if you get stopped by a dog, it would be pointless doing anything but a thorough search which would include a wallet where powder could be kept.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #153 on: January 19, 2020, 11:04:22 AM »
I thought they were "drugs dogs" as well. It would be a pretty stupid waste of funding to go to the extremes of training and implementing dogs on matchdays just to sniff out a glorified smoke bomb.

Personally, I think the drug dogs are a little bit OTT as well.  People can arrive after a 3 or 4 hour boozing session but a bit of personal weed/coke whatever is strictly forbidden. Yes, I accept drugs are illegal but in the grand scheme of things, why pick on travelling away fans to conduct these searches? How many people are caught by these dogs? It just doesn't weigh up to me. Yesterday, we had to go past 2 different sets of dogs to get to the turnstiles - That's at least 4 dogs (and handlers) that I saw. How much did this cost? What is their ultimate aim?

I suppose that if you get stopped by a dog, it would be pointless doing anything but a thorough search which would include a wallet where powder could be kept.

Don't you realise that all football fans are classified as scum (especially away fans)!

Offline Gerrin

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2020, 11:04:27 AM »
How many did we take down there? The away end looked nuts when Jack scored.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #155 on: January 19, 2020, 11:04:51 AM »
I thought the young lad coming on improved our structure, he ran hard and was good nuisance value one to ne persevered with.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #156 on: January 19, 2020, 11:16:29 AM »
I mean it was a decent stop but I would expect most keepers to save it. I was expecting high-end reflexes the way people were describing it.

I think what it does show is concentration to the end of the game.  That's what top level experience brings you.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #157 on: January 19, 2020, 11:20:41 AM »
Was my first live game in a couple of months, thought both teams were pretty average, we improved in the 2nd half especially after the changes, Vassilev was full of running and make their centre backs make a couple of mistakes. We are just carrying too many players playing poorly at the minute, Hause, Nakamba and Targett just don't look up to scratch yet, because of the lack of depth in the squad though they get picked. Trez for all his running lacks any end result, but I think he'll improve, just like Konsa who I think has a big future.

Hope the new signing can hit the ground running, we can then play Jack deeper and control the ball more.

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #158 on: January 19, 2020, 11:33:43 AM »
I though Drinkwater grew in to the game. With fitness there is a player there.

Agreed.



Me too. Surprised at people who thought he was poor. I think he showed intelligence in not getting a second card after a frankly ludicrous challenge for his yellow.

Having said that Luiz did well when he came on. One of our problems this season is that players have come on and made a good cameo off the bench and then been anonymous when starting the next game.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #159 on: January 19, 2020, 11:41:07 AM »
I thought they were "drugs dogs" as well. It would be a pretty stupid waste of funding to go to the extremes of training and implementing dogs on matchdays just to sniff out a glorified smoke bomb.

Personally, I think the drug dogs are a little bit OTT as well.  People can arrive after a 3 or 4 hour boozing session but a bit of personal weed/coke whatever is strictly forbidden. Yes, I accept drugs are illegal but in the grand scheme of things, why pick on travelling away fans to conduct these searches? How many people are caught by these dogs? It just doesn't weigh up to me. Yesterday, we had to go past 2 different sets of dogs to get to the turnstiles - That's at least 4 dogs (and handlers) that I saw. How much did this cost? What is their ultimate aim?

I suppose that if you get stopped by a dog, it would be pointless doing anything but a thorough search which would include a wallet where powder could be kept.

I was with Chico and a few of the London Lions and it seemed like a strange use of police resources to me. A Villa mate from Brighton joined us so I will ask him if this is normal.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #160 on: January 19, 2020, 11:43:07 AM »
I thought they were "drugs dogs" as well. It would be a pretty stupid waste of funding to go to the extremes of training and implementing dogs on matchdays just to sniff out a glorified smoke bomb.

Personally, I think the drug dogs are a little bit OTT as well.  People can arrive after a 3 or 4 hour boozing session but a bit of personal weed/coke whatever is strictly forbidden. Yes, I accept drugs are illegal but in the grand scheme of things, why pick on travelling away fans to conduct these searches? How many people are caught by these dogs? It just doesn't weigh up to me. Yesterday, we had to go past 2 different sets of dogs to get to the turnstiles - That's at least 4 dogs (and handlers) that I saw. How much did this cost? What is their ultimate aim?

I suppose that if you get stopped by a dog, it would be pointless doing anything but a thorough search which would include a wallet where powder could be kept.

I was with Chico and a few of the London Lions and it seemed like a strange use of police resources to me. A Villa mate from Brighton joined us so I will ask him if this is normal.

It is they had them their for the League Cup game.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #161 on: January 19, 2020, 11:54:27 AM »

 and what's the point of a pack of pyro dogs that cannot sniff out pyro?


They were sniffing for drugs I was told - shortly after one of them started jumping up and sniffing me and I was taken aside to a special area for a thorough searching by 2 security blokes. Nothing found, of course, but not the sort of thing you expect to happen to you in front of your 13 year old son. They weren't coppers, I asked if they were authorised to be so thorough ( they were leafing through my wallet, opening up receipts etc) but the angrier I got, the more they seemed to enjoy doing it.

Anyway, I said before the game that I'd take a point

That's definiitely worth making a complaint about.

Offline Brassneck

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #162 on: January 19, 2020, 12:29:04 PM »
We've seen these dogs at a few games recently - Boro & Leeds spring to mind and possibly Millwall. I might be in a minority but I don't get it.

In fact, at Boro, we stopped off at a sevice station just outside where all coaches were told to meet at a pre-arranged time to be escorted in together. A police woman boarded and explained what was going on. She also stated that there were sniffer dogs at the turnstiles so if anybody "finds" any illegal substances on the floor now, they can hand them over and no action will be taken. However she went on to state that if anyone was caught at the turnstiles with drugs, they would be arrested. I thought that was fair enough.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #163 on: January 19, 2020, 12:33:44 PM »

 and what's the point of a pack of pyro dogs that cannot sniff out pyro?


They were sniffing for drugs I was told - shortly after one of them started jumping up and sniffing me and I was taken aside to a special area for a thorough searching by 2 security blokes. Nothing found, of course, but not the sort of thing you expect to happen to you in front of your 13 year old son. They weren't coppers, I asked if they were authorised to be so thorough ( they were leafing through my wallet, opening up receipts etc) but the angrier I got, the more they seemed to enjoy doing it.

Anyway, I said before the game that I'd take a point

They pulled over a couple of blokes for this.

I assumed the dogs were for pyro as I commented to the steward that the level of security was overboard, butbthat was apparently because we had a load of pyro on the past two occasions. They had a better memory than me.

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Re: Brighton - Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #164 on: January 19, 2020, 01:01:48 PM »
An absolute must not lose on Tuesday, and considering we've played a disproportionate amount of games against the teams we generally pick up points from, it's a must win. I thought 7 was needed from these 3. I fear this is going to be the most difficult of the three though.

Probably for another thread but I agree with this, I think Watford will be the most difficult of the three, despite being at home. We owe them one though after Xmas and also, despite only being in November, I remember Deeney scoring at the holte in 2015 to put them 3-1 up, that was the moment I thought we were down that season.

Tough game given their current form, a win would be huge but every single has to be up for the scrap as they will be.

 


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