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Offline KevinGage

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #435 on: December 11, 2019, 09:58:33 PM »
Grabban? Fucking hell.

He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.

More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.

I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis.  But realistically we need better than all three.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #436 on: December 11, 2019, 10:35:46 PM »
Open winter transfer thread......

A few pages discussing the relative strengths of Mitrovic, Grabban, Assombolonga.........

Closes winter transfer thread......

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #437 on: December 11, 2019, 10:39:45 PM »
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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #438 on: December 11, 2019, 11:18:50 PM »
Grabban? Fucking hell.

He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.

More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.

I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis.  But realistically we need better than all three.

Not advocating we sign Grabban, especially as he is on the bench at Forest at the moment, but did see a stat on the TV during their game at Millwall saying he had scored the most goals in the Championship over the past five years. 

I don't really follow football abroad so don't really know what kind of options would be available in other countries, but in terms of British football, I think we would either be looking at taking a bit of a punt on someone like Ollie Watkins from Brentford or Morelos from Rangers or looking to sign someone on loan from another top flight club. 
« Last Edit: December 11, 2019, 11:28:06 PM by tomd2103 »

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #439 on: December 11, 2019, 11:29:27 PM »
Grabban? Fucking hell.

He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.

More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.

I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis.  But realistically we need better than all three.

Not advocating we sign Grabban, especially as he is on the bench at Forest at the moment, but did see a stat on the TV during their game at Millwall saying he had scored the most goals in the Championship over the past five years. 



Re Grabban stat scoring most in last 5 years but surely that doesn't mean much as a premier league bench mark.
If it wasnt for it being a fact it would be totally relativism
Its bordering anyway because :If Vardy, Kane , Aguero , or even Tammy Abraham played in the championship the last 5 years they would be the top scorer.

Its like saying I'm the youngest child because my brother and sisters are older than me.
But if my brother or sisters were younger then they would be the youngest.

Grabban scored the most goals in the championship in the last 5 years.

Aston Villa are in the Premier league.
Its 2 different things

Help me out with this?
« Last Edit: December 11, 2019, 11:31:59 PM by Vill I An »

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #440 on: December 11, 2019, 11:34:29 PM »
Heres 4 names who are doing ok at the moment - of them Moron and David look decent.

Loren Moron
Donyell Malen
Myron Boadu
Jonathan David

I mentioned Malen on a thread, not sure which, I think he could be a special talent but he's very young so he might not be the sort you sign looking for an immediate impact. Osimhen at Lyon looks a fantastic player as well, again very young but both are the sort of players we could pay 20-25m for and see bids of 2-3x that in 18months time.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #441 on: December 11, 2019, 11:36:19 PM »
Heres 4 names who are doing ok at the moment - of them Moron and David look decent.

Loren Moron
Donyell Malen
Myron Boadu
Jonathan David

I mentioned Malen on a thread, not sure which, I think he could be a special talent but he's very young so he might not be the sort you sign looking for an immediate impact. Osimhen at Lyon looks a fantastic player as well, again very young but both are the sort of players we could pay 20-25m for and see bids of 2-3x that in 18months time.

Are those real players then?  I thought it was a joke that I wasn't clever enough to understand!

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #442 on: December 11, 2019, 11:39:08 PM »
Heres 4 names who are doing ok at the moment - of them Moron and David look decent.

Loren Moron
Donyell Malen
Myron Boadu
Jonathan David

I mentioned Malen on a thread, not sure which, I think he could be a special talent but he's very young so he might not be the sort you sign looking for an immediate impact. Osimhen at Lyon looks a fantastic player as well, again very young but both are the sort of players we could pay 20-25m for and see bids of 2-3x that in 18months time.

Are those real players then?  I thought it was a joke that I wasn't clever enough to understand!
Yeh I stopped at Loren Moron

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #443 on: December 11, 2019, 11:50:07 PM »
If we could re-sign Grabban on loan and Bowen on a perm in January I'd snap your hand off right now. We'd look a completely different team.

I'd even take Mitrović. Although, as the current Championship top scorer that option seems unlikely.

Grabban and Mitrovic have proven on a few occasions they arent up to the top division, file under likes of Gayle, Dwight.

Grabban has only played 20 odd career games in the PL, mostly as a sub, since then his goal scoring record is averaging 1 in 2. He's already shown he can work hard for us and is worth another crack at the top flight.

Mitrović has a 1 in 4 record in the PL. Whilst not superb, if we compare that to our current striker's 0 in 8 - it's decent. That figure could easily be improved on with the likes of Grealish, El Ghazi and Hourihane supplying him.

If we end up bringing in better quality, it's a bonus.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #444 on: December 12, 2019, 12:14:42 AM »
Grabban is 32 next month and is not the answer to any question apart from "name a striker that is great in the lower leagues and shit in the Premier League".

If you are going to make Wes 0 in 8 then suggesting a striker that was 0 in 9 last season in the PL doesn't seem such a great idea. Or if we're picking random runs to suit an argument, Mitrovic scored in 4 of the last 31 PL games he played.
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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #445 on: December 12, 2019, 12:16:16 AM »
Grabban did well at the start of his loan spell but he went missing a bit in the actual play offs. Certainly a good championship striker when he's in the mood but I really don't see any indication we'll want to sign him.

If we are to sign from there it's obviously going to be Bowen or Benrahama I think. Could get both but I'd rather get in a more experienced international standard forward in.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #446 on: December 12, 2019, 12:29:27 AM »
Grabban? Fucking hell.

He's not the forward you'd build a side around but he wasn't overawed in his spell with us and it seemed to click for him.

More stability that summer and there's a decent chance we'd have made the move permanent.

I'd probably prefer him as an option from the bench over Kodjia or Davis.  But realistically we need better than all three.

Not advocating we sign Grabban, especially as he is on the bench at Forest at the moment, but did see a stat on the TV during their game at Millwall saying he had scored the most goals in the Championship over the past five years. 



Re Grabban stat scoring most in last 5 years but surely that doesn't mean much as a premier league bench mark.
If it wasnt for it being a fact it would be totally relativism
Its bordering anyway because :If Vardy, Kane , Aguero , or even Tammy Abraham played in the championship the last 5 years they would be the top scorer.

Its like saying I'm the youngest child because my brother and sisters are older than me.
But if my brother or sisters were younger then they would be the youngest.

Grabban scored the most goals in the championship in the last 5 years.

Aston Villa are in the Premier league.
Its 2 different things

Help me out with this?

As I say, wasn't advocating that we sign Grabban at all, just saying that I was a little surprised to see him top that particular chart, as I didn't think he had been that prolific during his career.

There are numerous examples of strikers who have been prolific in the Championship, but haven't made the step up when given the chance in the top flight.  Still, that kind of scoring record isn't to be sniffed at whatever level of football someone is playing at. 

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #447 on: December 12, 2019, 12:33:31 AM »
Yes that Grabban is some player but he is no Joze Altidore.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #448 on: December 12, 2019, 01:27:14 AM »
If Rangers have a poor December / early Jan I would offer big money for Morelos. Young and a good player and probably needs a PL stepping stone to the Sky 6. Still will be difficult to get even if we start picking up points from here but money talks.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #449 on: December 12, 2019, 08:16:37 AM »
Grabban is 32 next month and is not the answer to any question apart from "name a striker that is great in the lower leagues and shit in the Premier League".

Or maybe "name a striker who may not be great but would be cheap and almost certainly better than Wesley at the moment?"  I appreciate there would be fucking hundreds of viable answers to this question and I'm not advocating signing them.  But if you asked me who I'd rather play up top for us on Saturday Wesley or Grabban, there's only one answer to that.

 


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