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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2205 on: April 22, 2024, 01:29:24 PM »
MOTD getting our Diaby's name wrong is surely really bad, did nobody pick that up in production?

I know, that was awful.

Did she call him Mohammed Diaby?!
Not sure , i tend not to listen to the commentary . I'm not sure where the mistake was or the content .

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2206 on: April 22, 2024, 01:54:32 PM »
It's not a surprise there are ex-Man City youth players plying their trade in the premier league.  As others have said, it's the logical conclusion when you go around sweeping up the best 14/15/16 year olds from other academies. 

Morgan Rogers is a perfect example, they took from him West Brom when he was 16, and by 18 he was out on loan. Boro bought him at 20 after he's had three loans in two years. I have no doubt Man City had SOME impact on his development, but to describe him as "a product of the Man City academy" is stretching it a bit.

You can criticise Man City for their approach, but I hope it's something we're trying to replicate.  We're the biggest club for miles around, and with a huge catchment area we should be hoovering up all the talented kids in a fifty mile radius. 

The point being, with as many promising kids as Man City acquire, and first team squad of limited size, it's a statistical certainty that they will sell/lose some very good players along the way.  But if they're getting Cole Palmer money for them, I'm sure they'll be delighted. Morgan Rogers money, not so much.

EDIT: Just checked, and it seems Man City paid West Brom £4m for Rogers as a 16-year-old.  So technically, they've probably lost money on him, unless they had a big sell-on percentage when they sold him to Boro.

We've already replicated it, loads of players in the U18 and U21 squads joined us when they were well alon the road of their development.

Of course, but it's still very early in that journey for us.  I think we'll have "replicated it" when there are a few promising 21/22/23 year olds playing in the premier league who either came through our academy, or who spent time in it.  Or when every season we're selling one or two youth players for reasonable sums. We've done it pretty well in the last 18-24 months or so, but will that be a one-off? Or will we be selling one or two Chukwuemeka/Archer/Ramsey Jnr/Philogenes each season moving forward?  I'd always prefer youth players making it into our first team, but if we're going to have a production line that ends in more player sales than it does players in the 1st team, then let's see it working properly on a regular basis.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2207 on: April 22, 2024, 02:05:46 PM »
I know he's not popular on here, but I think Murphy is a pretty decent pundit and as miserable as he looks he usually gives credit where it's due.  Obviously, some researcher had come up with the angle that there are a few ex Man City academy players in the PL and he trotted it out, but I wouldn't really expect a pundit to have detained knowledge of a players youth career.  It's a throwaway comment really.

Which Murphy have you watched? His problem, the same with others of his time is the bias towards the top 4-6 and his / BBC's reliance on playing for Liverpool so that means he knows more about football then others.


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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2208 on: April 22, 2024, 02:06:38 PM »
It's not a surprise there are ex-Man City youth players plying their trade in the premier league.  As others have said, it's the logical conclusion when you go around sweeping up the best 14/15/16 year olds from other academies. 

Morgan Rogers is a perfect example, they took from him West Brom when he was 16, and by 18 he was out on loan. Boro bought him at 20 after he's had three loans in two years. I have no doubt Man City had SOME impact on his development, but to describe him as "a product of the Man City academy" is stretching it a bit.

You can criticise Man City for their approach, but I hope it's something we're trying to replicate.  We're the biggest club for miles around, and with a huge catchment area we should be hoovering up all the talented kids in a fifty mile radius. 

The point being, with as many promising kids as Man City acquire, and first team squad of limited size, it's a statistical certainty that they will sell/lose some very good players along the way.  But if they're getting Cole Palmer money for them, I'm sure they'll be delighted. Morgan Rogers money, not so much.

EDIT: Just checked, and it seems Man City paid West Brom £4m for Rogers as a 16-year-old.  So technically, they've probably lost money on him, unless they had a big sell-on percentage when they sold him to Boro.

We've already replicated it, loads of players in the U18 and U21 squads joined us when they were well alon the road of their development.

Of course, but it's still very early in that journey for us.  I think we'll have "replicated it" when there are a few promising 21/22/23 year olds playing in the premier league who either came through our academy, or who spent time in it.  Or when every season we're selling one or two youth players for reasonable sums. We've done it pretty well in the last 18-24 months or so, but will that be a one-off? Or will we be selling one or two Chukwuemeka/Archer/Ramsey Jnr/Philogenes each season moving forward?  I'd always prefer youth players making it into our first team, but if we're going to have a production line that ends in more player sales than it does players in the 1st team, then let's see it working properly on a regular basis.

If we have 1 player a season come through from the academy it will have been wildly successful. On that basis if we can also get £20m+ a year by selling the ones that don't quite make it or want to move on then that's funding 1 big summer signing a season, which is a fantastic postion to be in.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2209 on: April 22, 2024, 03:25:02 PM »
Anyone want to take a hit for the team and confirm if they even covered Dalian's Selhurst beauty in the latest top 10's about solo efforts? Warning contains Micah Richards.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2210 on: April 22, 2024, 04:03:54 PM »
I know he's not popular on here, but I think Murphy is a pretty decent pundit and as miserable as he looks he usually gives credit where it's due.  Obviously, some researcher had come up with the angle that there are a few ex Man City academy players in the PL and he trotted it out, but I wouldn't really expect a pundit to have detained knowledge of a players youth career.  It's a throwaway comment really.

Which Murphy have you watched? His problem, the same with others of his time is the bias towards the top 4-6 and his / BBC's reliance on playing for Liverpool so that means he knows more about football then others.
Think Danny Murphy just hates Aston Villa and any praise is done through gritted teeth
« Last Edit: April 22, 2024, 04:14:30 PM by astonvilla82 »

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2211 on: April 22, 2024, 05:20:38 PM »
Anyone want to take a hit for the team and confirm if they even covered Dalian's Selhurst beauty in the latest top 10's about solo efforts? Warning contains Micah Richards.

I can imagine it now from Richards...."So Dalian Atkinson, hahahahahahahahahahhahahaHAHAHAHAHA, Dalian, receives the ball, RECEIVES THE BALL!!! Hahahahahahahahaha, ohmydays, he receives the ball, and then HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, skips past a few clumsy challenges, and then, breathe Micah, breathe, he sees the keeper off his line. Off his line HAHAHAHAAHAAHA. And then he sort of dinks the ball, over the keeper! The keeper!  Hahahahahahaaha, like, he's totally run around half the team and scored a goal! Honestly, you had to be there AHAHAHAHAHAHA! But it doesn't finish there, heheheheheheh, oh no, some bloke with a, oh you're not going to believe this, HAHAHAHAHAHA, some bloke with an umbrella, AN UMBRELLA, ohmydays, runs on....oooooooof, he runs on, and holds it over Dalian HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA.

Twat.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2212 on: April 22, 2024, 05:32:49 PM »
I know he's not popular on here, but I think Murphy is a pretty decent pundit and as miserable as he looks he usually gives credit where it's due.  Obviously, some researcher had come up with the angle that there are a few ex Man City academy players in the PL and he trotted it out, but I wouldn't really expect a pundit to have detained knowledge of a players youth career.  It's a throwaway comment really.

Which Murphy have you watched? His problem, the same with others of his time is the bias towards the top 4-6 and his / BBC's reliance on playing for Liverpool so that means he knows more about football then others.
Think Danny Murphy just hates Aston Villa and any praise is done through gritted teeth

Channeling Brian Clough, I never criticise MOTD pundits and Iím not going to criticise that useless wanker either

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2213 on: April 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PM »
I know he's not popular on here, but I think Murphy is a pretty decent pundit and as miserable as he looks he usually gives credit where it's due.  Obviously, some researcher had come up with the angle that there are a few ex Man City academy players in the PL and he trotted it out, but I wouldn't really expect a pundit to have detained knowledge of a players youth career.  It's a throwaway comment really.

Which Murphy have you watched? His problem, the same with others of his time is the bias towards the top 4-6 and his / BBC's reliance on playing for Liverpool so that means he knows more about football then others.
Think Danny Murphy just hates Aston Villa and any praise is done through gritted teeth
I disagree.  In my view he's pretty balanced with whoever he's talking about.  Appreciate his manner isn't for everyone though.

Offline edgysatsuma89

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2214 on: April 22, 2024, 05:59:46 PM »
I know he's not popular on here, but I think Murphy is a pretty decent pundit and as miserable as he looks he usually gives credit where it's due.  Obviously, some researcher had come up with the angle that there are a few ex Man City academy players in the PL and he trotted it out, but I wouldn't really expect a pundit to have detained knowledge of a players youth career.  It's a throwaway comment really.

Which Murphy have you watched? His problem, the same with others of his time is the bias towards the top 4-6 and his / BBC's reliance on playing for Liverpool so that means he knows more about football then others.
Think Danny Murphy just hates Aston Villa and any praise is done through gritted teeth
I disagree.  In my view he's pretty balanced with whoever he's talking about.  Appreciate his manner isn't for everyone though.

If I go by what I read on here then all pundits hate us and wish we didn't exist*.

*I suspect most of them couldn't give a shit, like with most teams.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2215 on: April 22, 2024, 06:56:41 PM »
Anyone want to take a hit for the team and confirm if they even covered Dalian's Selhurst beauty in the latest top 10's about solo efforts? Warning contains Micah Richards.

Don't be silly! Listened for 5 mins or so to hear the ten that included efforts by amongst others Henry, Son, Payet, Rod Wallace, Le Tissier and even Micah effing Richards himself....but no Dalian.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2216 on: April 22, 2024, 08:54:31 PM »
Anyone want to take a hit for the team and confirm if they even covered Dalian's Selhurst beauty in the latest top 10's about solo efforts? Warning contains Micah Richards.

I can imagine it now from Richards...."So Dalian Atkinson, hahahahahahahahahahhahahaHAHAHAHAHA, Dalian, receives the ball, RECEIVES THE BALL!!! Hahahahahahahahaha, ohmydays, he receives the ball, and then HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, skips past a few clumsy challenges, and then, breathe Micah, breathe, he sees the keeper off his line. Off his line HAHAHAHAAHAAHA. And then he sort of dinks the ball, over the keeper! The keeper!  Hahahahahahaaha, like, he's totally run around half the team and scored a goal! Honestly, you had to be there AHAHAHAHAHAHA! But it doesn't finish there, heheheheheheh, oh no, some bloke with a, oh you're not going to believe this, HAHAHAHAHAHA, some bloke with an umbrella, AN UMBRELLA, ohmydays, runs on....oooooooof, he runs on, and holds it over Dalian HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA.

Twat.

Stands and applauds. Superb Risso, superb.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2217 on: April 22, 2024, 09:37:44 PM »
From next season the BBC will have Champions League highlights with a new Wednesday-night Match of the Day.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2218 on: April 22, 2024, 09:43:22 PM »
From next season the BBC will have Champions League highlights with a new Wednesday-night Match of the Day.

Great news, it'll give Tim a chance to moan about our position in the MOTD running order, midweek as well as at weekends.

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Re: MOTD
« Reply #2219 on: April 22, 2024, 09:44:21 PM »
The bit I saw praised the Man City academy rather than Pep and listed who's playing Premier League football. Doyle at Wolves, McAtee at Sheffield United, Cole Palmer, Phil Foden and Rogers. Quite a few are making it but it still misses the point that they're recruiting the best players from other people's academies.
Southampton got relegated last season with some of those so called high flying Man City academy players being recruiting.
Doyle and McAtee are nothing spectacular, and they are on par with those solid footballers of last season but not Rodgers who is next level.
Only Palmer and Foden can be named with any reverence.
Staggering Emery isnít praised. Funnily enough Rodgers has said Emery calls me a championship player ! Itís a clever attempt to motivate and encourage him and remind him thereís still more needed

Why canít you learn to spell his name? Rogers.

 


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