Quote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 01:05:47 PMI think we're clutching at straws to blame the officials yesterday. The penalty would have been harsh as he was moving his arm into his body. Also, I don't think they had a player in our wall, looking at the shots from in front and behind. Nobody to blame but ourselves and if he didn't want to start with 2 holding midfielders, he almost certainly should have changed it when we began to drop deeper.
I think we're clutching at straws to blame the officials yesterday. The penalty would have been harsh as he was moving his arm into his body. Also, I don't think they had a player in our wall, looking at the shots from in front and behind. Nobody to blame but ourselves and if he didn't want to start with 2 holding midfielders, he almost certainly should have changed it when we began to drop deeper.
The responsibility for this defeat is with Smith and his failure to acknowledge his culpability is disappointing.
Quote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 01:45:06 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 01:05:47 PMI think we're clutching at straws to blame the officials yesterday. The penalty would have been harsh as he was moving his arm into his body. Also, I don't think they had a player in our wall, looking at the shots from in front and behind. Nobody to blame but ourselves and if he didn't want to start with 2 holding midfielders, he almost certainly should have changed it when we began to drop deeper.The way I look at it, Jack, SJM & Marvelous were not part of the wall (which consisted of 4 players)
Quote from: olaftab on September 23, 2019, 12:24:27 PMI thought John Moss was very good yesterday. Couple of marginal decisions in favour/against both teams but overall it was good performance by the officials.Don't go coming on here being all reasonable and rational, Aftab.
I thought John Moss was very good yesterday. Couple of marginal decisions in favour/against both teams but overall it was good performance by the officials.
Quote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 03:28:34 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 01:45:06 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 01:05:47 PMI think we're clutching at straws to blame the officials yesterday. The penalty would have been harsh as he was moving his arm into his body. Also, I don't think they had a player in our wall, looking at the shots from in front and behind. Nobody to blame but ourselves and if he didn't want to start with 2 holding midfielders, he almost certainly should have changed it when we began to drop deeper.The way I look at it, Jack, SJM & Marvelous were not part of the wall (which consisted of 4 players)I suggest you dig a bit deeper, can't post other images but there is an Arsenal player behind the wall.
Quote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 03:37:44 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 03:28:34 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 01:45:06 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 01:05:47 PMI think we're clutching at straws to blame the officials yesterday. The penalty would have been harsh as he was moving his arm into his body. Also, I don't think they had a player in our wall, looking at the shots from in front and behind. Nobody to blame but ourselves and if he didn't want to start with 2 holding midfielders, he almost certainly should have changed it when we began to drop deeper.The way I look at it, Jack, SJM & Marvelous were not part of the wall (which consisted of 4 players)I suggest you dig a bit deeper, can't post other images but there is an Arsenal player behind the wall.I;ve seen the images on one of the Villa FB pages this morning. The player behind the wall doesn't interfere with it.
Quote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 03:28:34 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 01:45:06 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 01:05:47 PMI think we're clutching at straws to blame the officials yesterday. The penalty would have been harsh as he was moving his arm into his body. Also, I don't think they had a player in our wall, looking at the shots from in front and behind. Nobody to blame but ourselves and if he didn't want to start with 2 holding midfielders, he almost certainly should have changed it when we began to drop deeper.The way I look at it, Jack, SJM & Marvelous were not part of the wall (which consisted of 4 players)Then thats the way you want to look at it. But i don't know why when the image above proves otherwise. You also said you don't think it was a pen. Every commentator i've heard disagrees with you. I mean even that Villa hating scrote Danny Murphy said on MOTD "the most clear cut penalty you will ever see" Again you look at it differently to everyone else including neutrals. I'm sure you have your reasons.
Quote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 05:34:14 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 03:37:44 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 03:28:34 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 01:45:06 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 01:05:47 PMI think we're clutching at straws to blame the officials yesterday. The penalty would have been harsh as he was moving his arm into his body. Also, I don't think they had a player in our wall, looking at the shots from in front and behind. Nobody to blame but ourselves and if he didn't want to start with 2 holding midfielders, he almost certainly should have changed it when we began to drop deeper.The way I look at it, Jack, SJM & Marvelous were not part of the wall (which consisted of 4 players)I suggest you dig a bit deeper, can't post other images but there is an Arsenal player behind the wall.I;ve seen the images on one of the Villa FB pages this morning. The player behind the wall doesn't interfere with it.He doesn’t have to. Any opposition player within 1 metre of the wall of 3 or more players should be penalised by the award of an indirect free kick to the defending team.
Quote from: Lsvilla on September 23, 2019, 05:36:13 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 05:34:14 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 03:37:44 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 03:28:34 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on September 23, 2019, 01:45:06 PMQuote from: Brassneck on September 23, 2019, 01:05:47 PMI think we're clutching at straws to blame the officials yesterday. The penalty would have been harsh as he was moving his arm into his body. Also, I don't think they had a player in our wall, looking at the shots from in front and behind. Nobody to blame but ourselves and if he didn't want to start with 2 holding midfielders, he almost certainly should have changed it when we began to drop deeper.The way I look at it, Jack, SJM & Marvelous were not part of the wall (which consisted of 4 players)I suggest you dig a bit deeper, can't post other images but there is an Arsenal player behind the wall.I;ve seen the images on one of the Villa FB pages this morning. The player behind the wall doesn't interfere with it.He doesn’t have to. Any opposition player within 1 metre of the wall of 3 or more players should be penalised by the award of an indirect free kick to the defending team.Again, he appears to be behind the 3, not the wall. If the ref didn't see it then it's up to Villa's players to ask for a VAR review.