Quote from: cdbullyweefan on September 22, 2019, 06:46:02 PMInsert "this is fine" fire cartoon meme for Drummond.Haha, you're so funny.It's not fine. It's not great at all but you'd think we'd been relegated and disgraced ourselves the way people react.
Insert "this is fine" fire cartoon meme for Drummond.
Quote from: Risso on September 22, 2019, 06:55:23 PMHe's not inexperienced though is he. OK it's his first Premier League season, but "replace a tired player" is hardly something you'd need to be Guardiola to know.If it's not inexperience then he either panicked or didn't know what to do. None of those is palatable.
He's not inexperienced though is he. OK it's his first Premier League season, but "replace a tired player" is hardly something you'd need to be Guardiola to know.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:57:00 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:55:55 PMQuote from: taylorsworkrate on September 22, 2019, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:46:59 PMQuote from: Rudy65 on September 22, 2019, 06:38:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2019, 06:31:46 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PMReally over the top reactions. We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?and against a shocking and often bottling team such as ArsenalIf we'd have won or even drawn, with the same performance, the reactions would be 180 degree different. A draw, against a team down to 10 men for an hour, who were also behind would still have been a very poor result.Not trying to be over picky, but wasn't he sen't off on the stroke of half time?Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:51:02 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:49:53 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:42:59 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:39:29 PMI think we just need to calm down. As I put in the match thread this isn’t a shock, we’ve lost these sort of games for years. We’re 4 points off 6th having played spurs & arsenal away and Everton & West Ham at home. Wow.That's marvellous spin. Firstly, we're not four points off 6th, we're 4 points off 12th, and two places off the bottom.4 points off twelve then. Does it matter? We aren’t exactly cut a drift are we?No we're not, but we're also not hovering around the top six, either.Come on, no one in their right mind expected the club that got in to the play offs after a late season run to be around the top 6 did they? We need to consolidate and stay in the division this season. By any means necessary and it won't be done by questioning everything about the team and management when we lose tight games. There's a time to do that and it isn't after 6 games when you are fighting hard for everything.No, we didn't, and I didn't suggest we should be - i was responding to the erroneous assertion that we're 4 points off 6th.By being a dick
Quote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:55:55 PMQuote from: taylorsworkrate on September 22, 2019, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:46:59 PMQuote from: Rudy65 on September 22, 2019, 06:38:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2019, 06:31:46 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PMReally over the top reactions. We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?and against a shocking and often bottling team such as ArsenalIf we'd have won or even drawn, with the same performance, the reactions would be 180 degree different. A draw, against a team down to 10 men for an hour, who were also behind would still have been a very poor result.Not trying to be over picky, but wasn't he sen't off on the stroke of half time?Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:51:02 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:49:53 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:42:59 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:39:29 PMI think we just need to calm down. As I put in the match thread this isn’t a shock, we’ve lost these sort of games for years. We’re 4 points off 6th having played spurs & arsenal away and Everton & West Ham at home. Wow.That's marvellous spin. Firstly, we're not four points off 6th, we're 4 points off 12th, and two places off the bottom.4 points off twelve then. Does it matter? We aren’t exactly cut a drift are we?No we're not, but we're also not hovering around the top six, either.Come on, no one in their right mind expected the club that got in to the play offs after a late season run to be around the top 6 did they? We need to consolidate and stay in the division this season. By any means necessary and it won't be done by questioning everything about the team and management when we lose tight games. There's a time to do that and it isn't after 6 games when you are fighting hard for everything.No, we didn't, and I didn't suggest we should be - i was responding to the erroneous assertion that we're 4 points off 6th.
Quote from: taylorsworkrate on September 22, 2019, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:46:59 PMQuote from: Rudy65 on September 22, 2019, 06:38:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2019, 06:31:46 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PMReally over the top reactions. We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?and against a shocking and often bottling team such as ArsenalIf we'd have won or even drawn, with the same performance, the reactions would be 180 degree different. A draw, against a team down to 10 men for an hour, who were also behind would still have been a very poor result.Not trying to be over picky, but wasn't he sen't off on the stroke of half time?Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:51:02 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:49:53 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:42:59 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:39:29 PMI think we just need to calm down. As I put in the match thread this isn’t a shock, we’ve lost these sort of games for years. We’re 4 points off 6th having played spurs & arsenal away and Everton & West Ham at home. Wow.That's marvellous spin. Firstly, we're not four points off 6th, we're 4 points off 12th, and two places off the bottom.4 points off twelve then. Does it matter? We aren’t exactly cut a drift are we?No we're not, but we're also not hovering around the top six, either.Come on, no one in their right mind expected the club that got in to the play offs after a late season run to be around the top 6 did they? We need to consolidate and stay in the division this season. By any means necessary and it won't be done by questioning everything about the team and management when we lose tight games. There's a time to do that and it isn't after 6 games when you are fighting hard for everything.
Quote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:46:59 PMQuote from: Rudy65 on September 22, 2019, 06:38:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2019, 06:31:46 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PMReally over the top reactions. We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?and against a shocking and often bottling team such as ArsenalIf we'd have won or even drawn, with the same performance, the reactions would be 180 degree different. A draw, against a team down to 10 men for an hour, who were also behind would still have been a very poor result.
Quote from: Rudy65 on September 22, 2019, 06:38:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2019, 06:31:46 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PMReally over the top reactions. We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?and against a shocking and often bottling team such as ArsenalIf we'd have won or even drawn, with the same performance, the reactions would be 180 degree different.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2019, 06:31:46 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PMReally over the top reactions. We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?and against a shocking and often bottling team such as Arsenal
Quote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PMReally over the top reactions. We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?
Really over the top reactions.
Quote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:49:53 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:42:59 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:39:29 PMI think we just need to calm down. As I put in the match thread this isn’t a shock, we’ve lost these sort of games for years. We’re 4 points off 6th having played spurs & arsenal away and Everton & West Ham at home. Wow.That's marvellous spin. Firstly, we're not four points off 6th, we're 4 points off 12th, and two places off the bottom.4 points off twelve then. Does it matter? We aren’t exactly cut a drift are we?No we're not, but we're also not hovering around the top six, either.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:42:59 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:39:29 PMI think we just need to calm down. As I put in the match thread this isn’t a shock, we’ve lost these sort of games for years. We’re 4 points off 6th having played spurs & arsenal away and Everton & West Ham at home. Wow.That's marvellous spin. Firstly, we're not four points off 6th, we're 4 points off 12th, and two places off the bottom.4 points off twelve then. Does it matter? We aren’t exactly cut a drift are we?
Quote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:39:29 PMI think we just need to calm down. As I put in the match thread this isn’t a shock, we’ve lost these sort of games for years. We’re 4 points off 6th having played spurs & arsenal away and Everton & West Ham at home. Wow.That's marvellous spin. Firstly, we're not four points off 6th, we're 4 points off 12th, and two places off the bottom.
I think we just need to calm down. As I put in the match thread this isn’t a shock, we’ve lost these sort of games for years. We’re 4 points off 6th having played spurs & arsenal away and Everton & West Ham at home.
Quote from: Drummond on September 22, 2019, 06:57:43 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on September 22, 2019, 06:46:02 PMInsert "this is fine" fire cartoon meme for Drummond.Haha, you're so funny.It's not fine. It's not great at all but you'd think we'd been relegated and disgraced ourselves the way people react. Well, we have just gone into the second half one up against ten men, only to repeat the mistake we last made six days ago, and get beaten 3-2 when the correct subs to be made could by spotted by a one eyed man on a galloping horse.It's not humiliation, no, but it is incredibly frustrating, and it's hardly surprising people are reacting angrily half an hour after it's finished, is it?
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on September 22, 2019, 06:57:49 PMQuote from: Risso on September 22, 2019, 06:55:23 PMHe's not inexperienced though is he. OK it's his first Premier League season, but "replace a tired player" is hardly something you'd need to be Guardiola to know.If it's not inexperience then he either panicked or didn't know what to do. None of those is palatable.I think he froze, there really is no other explanation.
Oh, put your knickers back on and calm down
Quote from: themossman on September 22, 2019, 06:44:19 PMThat felt worryingly like the Leicester 15/16 game. Played well, things appeared to be clicking but pissed it away, mainly through tactical ineptitude.Absolutely nothing like Sherwood, a manager with no pedigree, who had proven nothing at the club, who was a proven bullshitter, who helped harness division in the dressing room, throwing on an extra attacking player when we were at Leicester and falling apart. This is the over the top crap that I am talking about.Comparing Tim Sherwood to Dean Smith?Here's a clue, one of them will never manage again. Take a guess who it is and for why.
That felt worryingly like the Leicester 15/16 game. Played well, things appeared to be clicking but pissed it away, mainly through tactical ineptitude.
Quote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:59:53 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:57:00 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:55:55 PMQuote from: taylorsworkrate on September 22, 2019, 06:51:01 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:46:59 PMQuote from: Rudy65 on September 22, 2019, 06:38:58 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2019, 06:31:46 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PMReally over the top reactions. We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?and against a shocking and often bottling team such as ArsenalIf we'd have won or even drawn, with the same performance, the reactions would be 180 degree different. A draw, against a team down to 10 men for an hour, who were also behind would still have been a very poor result.Not trying to be over picky, but wasn't he sen't off on the stroke of half time?Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:51:02 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:49:53 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 06:42:59 PMQuote from: richtheholtender on September 22, 2019, 06:39:29 PMI think we just need to calm down. As I put in the match thread this isn’t a shock, we’ve lost these sort of games for years. We’re 4 points off 6th having played spurs & arsenal away and Everton & West Ham at home. Wow.That's marvellous spin. Firstly, we're not four points off 6th, we're 4 points off 12th, and two places off the bottom.4 points off twelve then. Does it matter? We aren’t exactly cut a drift are we?No we're not, but we're also not hovering around the top six, either.Come on, no one in their right mind expected the club that got in to the play offs after a late season run to be around the top 6 did they? We need to consolidate and stay in the division this season. By any means necessary and it won't be done by questioning everything about the team and management when we lose tight games. There's a time to do that and it isn't after 6 games when you are fighting hard for everything.No, we didn't, and I didn't suggest we should be - i was responding to the erroneous assertion that we're 4 points off 6th.By being a dickOh, put your knickers back on and calm down - where's the dickishness in my reply? I pointed out you were factually incorrect and that we were two places from the bottom.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on September 22, 2019, 07:00:08 PMQuote from: Drummond on September 22, 2019, 06:57:43 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on September 22, 2019, 06:46:02 PMInsert "this is fine" fire cartoon meme for Drummond.Haha, you're so funny.It's not fine. It's not great at all but you'd think we'd been relegated and disgraced ourselves the way people react. Well, we have just gone into the second half one up against ten men, only to repeat the mistake we last made six days ago, and get beaten 3-2 when the correct subs to be made could by spotted by a one eyed man on a galloping horse.It's not humiliation, no, but it is incredibly frustrating, and it's hardly surprising people are reacting angrily half an hour after it's finished, is it?We got into that position to then lose it. We didn't do a Watford.Of course it's frustrating but don't start questioning him already. Please.