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Author Topic: Anyone starting to get worried?  (Read 91597 times)

Offline Damo70

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #840 on: December 14, 2019, 08:03:34 PM »
The next 3 games define our season.

December 21st to January 21st will define our season. Southampton (H), Norwich (H), Watford (A), Burnley (A), Man City (H), Brighton (A), Watford (H)

Apart from Man City we couldn't hope for a better run of fixtures to try to climb the table.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2019, 08:08:08 PM by Damo70 »

Offline themossman

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #841 on: December 14, 2019, 08:07:38 PM »
Right now I dont trust these players to beat anyone, players have off days, moments, but bloody hell weve gone into our shells and Smith and his coaches seem unable to coach them out of them. Nakamba for example, ran the show against Brighton, hes been pish ever since, McGinn, where do you start, Luiz has been bobbins. 
We need a win Tuesday, any kind will do followed up with an assured victory on Saturday, nothing else will do.

Consistency is the issue with the players. All our players are good on their day and can change games but everyone of them including grealish has off games quite regularly and quite a few of them like AEG are all or nothing.

Weve only had a couple games where everyone clicked, Everton and Norwich.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #842 on: December 14, 2019, 08:10:39 PM »
Right now I dont trust these players to beat anyone, players have off days, moments, but bloody hell weve gone into our shells and Smith and his coaches seem unable to coach them out of them. Nakamba for example, ran the show against Brighton, hes been pish ever since, McGinn, where do you start, Luiz has been bobbins. 
We need a win Tuesday, any kind will do followed up with an assured victory on Saturday, nothing else will do.

Consistency is the issue with the players. All our players are good on their day and can change games but everyone of them including grealish has off games quite regularly and quite a few of them like AEG are all or nothing.

Weve only had a couple games where everyone clicked, Everton and Norwich.


Our inconsistency isn't just a game to game thing. We are too inconsistent during games too.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #843 on: December 14, 2019, 08:14:49 PM »
It's worth remembering many of these players have not played at this level before or very limited experience. We may have signed some of them for big money but bang average players go for at least 15m these days as Targett is showing. Guy couldn't even get in a poor Southampton team regularly in last two seasons.

Hause was a back up CB at Wolves who didn't play when they went up, Lansbury hardly played in prem at other clubs and settled in championship.

We have signed some good players but most were just punts from abroad or lower end here. Now if we'd signed 4-5 with the top level experience that Heaton does I'd be much more disappointed as the expectation would be greater then. Like it was in the MON days when we had an 11 full of solid internationals.

This is why January is crucial to me. Not just to stay up but to build for the next 18 months. We need to up our transfer sights a little imo and go after proven international class players.

Wolves signed Neves, Moutinho and Raul Jimenez and they are thriving at prem level and in europa with those three the heartbeat once they cross the halfway line.

It's surely not too much to ask to sign players of that standard?

Offline Vill I An

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #844 on: December 14, 2019, 08:33:57 PM »
Villa  need 5 more wins
Look at the winnable potential fixtures from 11 remaining at home

Southampton h
Norwich h
Watford h
Palace h
Sheff utd h
Wolves h

And Villa need 6 draws -we take some away points from rivals (and maybe even wins )
Away at
Southampton ,
Watford,
Brighton ,
Bournemouth.
West Ham

Offline Mister E

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #845 on: December 14, 2019, 08:35:50 PM »
I honestly think the players have sussed Wes out as a dud and the whole team is suffering. No hold up play leads to knackered legs on 70mins.
Perleeeeeaase. Behave.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #846 on: December 14, 2019, 08:37:48 PM »
It's worth remembering many of these players have not played at this level before or very limited experience. We may have signed some of them for big money but bang average players go for at least 15m these days as Targett is showing. Guy couldn't even get in a poor Southampton team regularly in last two seasons.

Hause was a back up CB at Wolves who didn't play when they went up, Lansbury hardly played in prem at other clubs and settled in championship.

We have signed some good players but most were just punts from abroad or lower end here. Now if we'd signed 4-5 with the top level experience that Heaton does I'd be much more disappointed as the expectation would be greater then. Like it was in the MON days when we had an 11 full of solid internationals.

This is why January is crucial to me. Not just to stay up but to build for the next 18 months. We need to up our transfer sights a little imo and go after proven international class players.

Wolves signed Neves, Moutinho and Raul Jimenez and they are thriving at prem level and in europa with those three the heartbeat once they cross the halfway line.

It's surely not too much to ask to sign players of that standard?

How many of the Sheff Utd players have played at this level? Has the manager managed at this level? They seem to be adjusting very well despite their lack of PL experience.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #847 on: December 14, 2019, 08:41:11 PM »
It's worth remembering many of these players have not played at this level before or very limited experience. We may have signed some of them for big money but bang average players go for at least 15m these days as Targett is showing. Guy couldn't even get in a poor Southampton team regularly in last two seasons.

Hause was a back up CB at Wolves who didn't play when they went up, Lansbury hardly played in prem at other clubs and settled in championship.

We have signed some good players but most were just punts from abroad or lower end here. Now if we'd signed 4-5 with the top level experience that Heaton does I'd be much more disappointed as the expectation would be greater then. Like it was in the MON days when we had an 11 full of solid internationals.

This is why January is crucial to me. Not just to stay up but to build for the next 18 months. We need to up our transfer sights a little imo and go after proven international class players.

Wolves signed Neves, Moutinho and Raul Jimenez and they are thriving at prem level and in europa with those three the heartbeat once they cross the halfway line.

It's surely not too much to ask to sign players of that standard?
Absolutely spot on. Some real quality and experience on top of what we have is really needed. We are not too bad and in a rut but we seriously need something more.
Im still convinced Smith can get us out of trouble. Too many players out of form but Awe dont have the squad to mix it up.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #848 on: December 14, 2019, 08:41:55 PM »
Three wins on the bounce over Xmas would do us a world of good. I am concerned it's looking like 3 out of 4 currently. Long way to go of course.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #849 on: December 14, 2019, 08:45:50 PM »
It's worth remembering many of these players have not played at this level before or very limited experience. We may have signed some of them for big money but bang average players go for at least 15m these days as Targett is showing. Guy couldn't even get in a poor Southampton team regularly in last two seasons.

Hause was a back up CB at Wolves who didn't play when they went up, Lansbury hardly played in prem at other clubs and settled in championship.

We have signed some good players but most were just punts from abroad or lower end here. Now if we'd signed 4-5 with the top level experience that Heaton does I'd be much more disappointed as the expectation would be greater then. Like it was in the MON days when we had an 11 full of solid internationals.

This is why January is crucial to me. Not just to stay up but to build for the next 18 months. We need to up our transfer sights a little imo and go after proven international class players.

Wolves signed Neves, Moutinho and Raul Jimenez and they are thriving at prem level and in europa with those three the heartbeat once they cross the halfway line.

It's surely not too much to ask to sign players of that standard?

How many of the Sheff Utd players have played at this level? Has the manager managed at this level? They seem to be adjusting very well despite their lack of PL experience.

Oh they're performing brilliantly but there is always one outlier team every season and they are it. The norm though is for promoted teams to struggle, Norwich finished what 20 points ahead of us but didn't add much and they've struggled more than we have.

This time last week we were only 4 points behind Sheffield United so it wasn't like they were miles ahead of us until last two games.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #850 on: December 14, 2019, 09:20:09 PM »
It's worth remembering many of these players have not played at this level before or very limited experience. We may have signed some of them for big money but bang average players go for at least 15m these days as Targett is showing. Guy couldn't even get in a poor Southampton team regularly in last two seasons.

Hause was a back up CB at Wolves who didn't play when they went up, Lansbury hardly played in prem at other clubs and settled in championship.

We have signed some good players but most were just punts from abroad or lower end here. Now if we'd signed 4-5 with the top level experience that Heaton does I'd be much more disappointed as the expectation would be greater then. Like it was in the MON days when we had an 11 full of solid internationals.

This is why January is crucial to me. Not just to stay up but to build for the next 18 months. We need to up our transfer sights a little imo and go after proven international class players.

Wolves signed Neves, Moutinho and Raul Jimenez and they are thriving at prem level and in europa with those three the heartbeat once they cross the halfway line.

It's surely not too much to ask to sign players of that standard?
Not easy to recruit Prem quality players when you are sitting just above the relegation zone.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #851 on: December 14, 2019, 09:21:55 PM »
You can recruit anyone you want when youve got owners as rich as ours.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #852 on: December 14, 2019, 09:22:59 PM »
So explain why the purchase of Maupay was sanctioned by Pitarch.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #853 on: December 14, 2019, 09:23:59 PM »
You can recruit anyone you want when youve got owners as rich as ours.
I think there is a little bit more to it than that.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #854 on: December 14, 2019, 09:31:17 PM »
Not easy to recruit Prem quality players when you are sitting just above the relegation zone.
No it isn't easy, but that's what we've got to do.  No excuses.