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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2265 on: January 28, 2023, 11:28:27 PM »
He offers far more than Ings.

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2267 on: January 28, 2023, 11:36:35 PM »
He offers far more than Ings.


for one he has pace

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2268 on: January 29, 2023, 01:38:47 AM »
He offers far more than Ings.

He does, but it could be that Emery is looking for size.

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2269 on: January 29, 2023, 07:53:22 AM »
... but it could be that Emery is looking for size.
Has he tried cuban heels?

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2270 on: January 29, 2023, 09:39:02 AM »
I think we have to get real with the level of expectation around him 

Maybe Emery just doesnít rate him going on what he sees in training and neither did Gerrard? Neither of them have chosen to use him so maybe thereís a reason for that. Exactly as we said about Sanson and Guilbert, much more experienced players. Maybe Archer is just too raw.

Itís still a big jump from where he is now - the fringe of the first team - and playing regularly in the top flight. How long ago was that goal at Chelsea now? Why hasnít he cracked on?

We havenít got anything like enough evidence to suggest heís better than Ings - a player with hundreds of top flight games under his belt.

Itís really really hard to come through as a youth team product to be a first or second choice striker at a premier league club, which is why so many drop a level or two and prove themselves there.

Heís gone to a good championship team now so will have a chance to prove the manager wrong.  I suspect heíll do well enough there to get offered a permanent deal and take it.

Heís going to have much more chance of building a top flight career that way than he is not quite making the next step here.

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2271 on: January 29, 2023, 10:18:50 AM »
I tend to agree, it's really difficult unless an injury happens and you grab the opportunity with both hands. The lad at Arsenal is a good example, he's turned himself from a fringe to a key player over the last few weeks, but you need that opportunity and it didn't come for him in the first half of this season.

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2272 on: January 29, 2023, 11:22:55 AM »
Looking at the Boro forum, their fans are very impressed with Cam.

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2273 on: January 29, 2023, 11:26:35 AM »
Looking at the Boro forum, their fans are very impressed with Cam.

That's just Legion posting under different usernames😀

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2274 on: January 29, 2023, 11:32:45 AM »
Rumbled!

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2275 on: January 29, 2023, 01:59:03 PM »
I tend to agree, it's really difficult unless an injury happens and you grab the opportunity with both hands. The lad at Arsenal is a good example, he's turned himself from a fringe to a key player over the last few weeks, but you need that opportunity and it didn't come for him in the first half of this season.

Eddie Nketiah is 23. His chance didnít just not come earlier this season, but in the last two or three seasons. He made his first team debut five years ago. He had one six month loan at Leeds in the championship. I hope Cam gets a proper chance with us before heís 23, or that we let him go and develop properly elsewhere. We donít need, and he doesnít need, for him to be considered a ďprospectĒ well into his twenties. It happened with Keinan, and I hope it doesnít happen with Cam.

That said, Cam was loved at Preston, and has started really well at boro. I donít think there is much doubt at this point that he can contribute at Championship level. The question now is whether he can do enough at a promotion chasing side to indicate he can do it at Prem level. I certainly hope so!

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2276 on: January 29, 2023, 03:32:49 PM »
My guess heís been sent out with a word in his ear and has a point to prove. These kind of performances and reviews will help and you know Emery will have his staff watching him closely. That Ings was usually on the bench and much more senior player obviously stifled Camís chances. But going forward, with the 5 subs rule even if we do sign another striker Cam will have his opportunity if keeps applying himself. His Villa career is far from over.

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2277 on: January 29, 2023, 07:17:06 PM »
Hope so but the 5 subs rule barely saw him get a sniff in the first half of the season.

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Re: Cameron Archer (on loan at Middlesbrough)
« Reply #2278 on: January 29, 2023, 08:56:07 PM »
Camís performance from the game yesterday. He was very good

https://twitter.com/boro_analytics/status/1619655637549600781?s=46&t=_7ifQ0YHfskRgGm4O1ic7g


 


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