Spurs 3 Aston Villa 1 post match thread.

[Dogtanian]

The scoreline reflects the possession. What am I disappointed about is that Dean says he wants to attack and win every game. I didn’t see any real desire to do that. It was entirely a back to the walls approach. Anyway let’s hope we see a much more progressive and attacking set up next weekend.

Unfortunately, in the real world, there are two teams on the pitch.  If we had gone all out attack in the second half we’d have been destroyed by that Spurs side and how they’d set themselves up.  Smith came straight out after the game and said we went too deep, which is true, so we have to have a balance.  Our outlet holding up the ball just yards from our own box was a key example of that, but these lessons will be learned.

[Dogtanian]

Jack needs to get up to speed. Can't dilly dally 25 yards out in this league. Got caught a few times and obviously was way too deep but if we're that deep then he needs to adapt and realise you can't always look for a pass.

I agree, although you have to look at who was presenting the options for him, no-one.  McGinn stood to one side and didn’t move and who was calling out ‘man on’?  I think by that stage we’d already ran out of steam.

He’ll learn there is a place for a good old-fashioned hoof!

[darren woolley]

This was always going to be an hard game for us Spurs are a good team make no mistake if we can beat team's like Bournemouth and team's like that then we should be OK great day out apart from the result at the new stadium.

[KRS]

I actually thought it was a foul on Grealish for their 2nd. They fully deserved their win so not sour grapes really.

Wes will be fine I think, we won't be playing Spurs every week, just could do with an early goal in his career. I see similarities with Benteke. His early goal set him off, Wes needs the same.

Me too, surprised they didn't see that on VAR.

I thought that too but it wasn’t given so not going to moan about it, however it’s worth noting that Jack was looking at a brick wall of Spurs players in front of him, no Villa players available in space and he wasn’t expecting a physical tackle from behind. As I’ve mentioned previously, he only had the ball at his feet for 3-4 seconds so it’s a bit harsh for some to be claiming that he was pissing about on the edge of the box.

One lesson all the players will have learned yesterday was that they don’t have the time on the ball they had in the Championship and there’s no better example of that than when Elmo got tackled in the first minute of the game. I have no doubt that we will learn and get better.

[Dogtanian]

Here’s what I am sure of. Is unlike other managers we have had where we will play the same way again next week, Dean Smith and staff will analyze the heck out of this and play a very different game vs Bournemouth. Also the players will learn from it. They’ll be told to watch how fast Spurs closed us down and that’s the level of intensity we will need to compete at this level. There won’t be any “we go again” or need to roll up our sleeves or we will there or thereabouts nonsense. The response will be measured and tactical.

Completely agree.

[Dogtanian]

Grealish was fine until their second goal. To say he won’t come good is just being hysterical.

Maybe, maybe not.

Some of the debutants looked far more composed to me.

Spurs fans in the box with us were on about how good he looked, I agree.  He made mistakes, wasn't helped by lack of outlets and how deep we shifted.  I think you need to re-watch the match, mate.

[Dogtanian]

Redknapp saying Wesley played well and easily looks a £22m forward. I'm wondering if I watched a different game?  Much better second half compared to first, and few touches that showed potential, but on that performance not sure how you can definitely say "well worth the money"?

Think someone had words with him at half time.  Spent far too long rolling around and sulking for stuff that was never going to be given in the Prem.  He looked better in the second half, but was too deep with everyone else and trying to receive and hold up the ball right where Spurs themselves wanted to keep it.

It should spur him on to improve on that.

[Toronto Villa]

First weekend over and we are 3 points of top spot.

[PaulWinch again]

Football is all about opinions. The ex pros summerising for SKY last night were very positive in their opinion of how Villa played and optimistic about our chances this season. The journalists  on The Sunday Supplement this morning were critical of us and felt we were very negative in our play and based on what they saw didn't think we would have a good season.

That’s such an idiotic opinion from the journalists. We were pragmatic playing one of the best 3 teams in the league. Anyone who has any ideas about our style knows we won’t generally play that way. You’d have to be fucking nuts as one of the newly promoted teams to go and try and play Spurs off the park at their home ground, with a load of debutants. We’d have been massacred.

[Villa Lew]

First weekend over and we are 3 points of top spot.

Also moved up 1 place

[Risso]

Football is all about opinions. The ex pros summerising for SKY last night were very positive in their opinion of how Villa played and optimistic about our chances this season. The journalists  on The Sunday Supplement this morning were critical of us and felt we were very negative in our play and based on what they saw didn't think we would have a good season.

That’s such an idiotic opinion from the journalists. We were pragmatic playing one of the best 3 teams in the league. Anyone who has any ideas about our style knows we won’t generally play that way. You’d have to be fucking nuts as one of the newly promoted teams to go and try and play Spurs off the park at their home ground, with a load of debutants. We’d have been massacred.

Agreed, we got it bang right for an hour or so.  I think I'd have brought Luiz and Lansbury on for Hourihane and El Ghazi, and packed the midfield leaving Jack to break  forward between the midfield and Wesley. Konsa could have come on as well at right back, and moved Elmo forward to give a bit of support against their rampaging full backs.

[olaftab]

First weekend over and we are 3 points of top spot.

Also moved up 1 place

And I think we can make up the goal difference when we play Barcahampton.

[pauliewalnuts]

Football is all about opinions. The ex pros summerising for SKY last night were very positive in their opinion of how Villa played and optimistic about our chances this season. The journalists  on The Sunday Supplement this morning were critical of us and felt we were very negative in our play and based on what they saw didn't think we would have a good season.

That’s such an idiotic opinion from the journalists. We were pragmatic playing one of the best 3 teams in the league. Anyone who has any ideas about our style knows we won’t generally play that way. You’d have to be fucking nuts as one of the newly promoted teams to go and try and play Spurs off the park at their home ground, with a load of debutants. We’d have been massacred.

Agreed, we got it bang right for an hour or so.  I think I'd have brought Luiz and Lansbury on for Hourihane and El Ghazi, and packed the midfield leaving Jack to break  forward between the midfield and Wesley. Konsa could have come on as well at right back, and moved Elmo forward to give a bit of support against their rampaging full backs.

I think there were plenty of positives to take from yesterday.

We had an excellent first half but in the end, the third best team in the country, and one whose last game was the Champions League final, proved too much for us.

I thought even Neil Taylor had a good game - especially given that El Ghazi didn't do any tracking back to help him out.

[Ads]

Should add, rail seats, I like the opportunity to have a good lean. Very much in favour of them.

[JUAN PABLO]

Football is all about opinions. The ex pros summerising for SKY last night were very positive in their opinion of how Villa played and optimistic about our chances this season. The journalists  on The Sunday Supplement this morning were critical of us and felt we were very negative in our play and based on what they saw didn't think we would have a good season.

Saw that , comparing us with Norwich , but the difference was Norwich probably went for it being 4 0 down where we were 1 0 up , If norwich had been 1 0 up , of course they would have had 11 men behind the ball.       But blimey away from home against the chump league finalist with one player costing half of our 13 players we brought in , give us a break and theres only another 2 teams as good as Spurzzz

3-0 up and it might have been a different game .