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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #885 on: April 05, 2021, 03:46:50 PM »
Raphinha has the same number of goals as AEG from more games. Not that goals are the be all and end all, but he doesn't seem a massive upgrade on what we have based on those figures. I think if you want a player who is already significantly better than what we have (Grealish excepted), you would have to spend a fortune. Obviously you could always buy someone young and cheaper in the hope that he develops into that sort of quality but we don't always have the most patient fanbase.

Raphinha has 6 goals and 6 assists.
Trez has 2 goals and 1 assist
El Ghazi has 6 goals and 0 assists.

Raphinha then, is either scoring or setting up a goal 1 game in 2 on average. Which is much better than any of our wingers.

If he played for us, you'd be moaning.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #886 on: April 05, 2021, 04:12:02 PM »
Raphinha has the same number of goals as AEG from more games. Not that goals are the be all and end all, but he doesn't seem a massive upgrade on what we have based on those figures. I think if you want a player who is already significantly better than what we have (Grealish excepted), you would have to spend a fortune. Obviously you could always buy someone young and cheaper in the hope that he develops into that sort of quality but we don't always have the most patient fanbase.

Raphinha has 6 goals and 6 assists.
Trez has 2 goals and 1 assist
El Ghazi has 6 goals and 0 assists.

Raphinha then, is either scoring or setting up a goal 1 game in 2 on average. Which is much better than any of our wingers.

If he played for us, you'd be moaning.

I imagine fans of every club complain about the inconsistency of their wingers. Because by the very nature of the position wingers are not fully involved as they occupy on side of the pitch or the other. They are provided the least amount of space on the pitch to work with, and the better they are the more likely they are to double teamed. I would put my money on some entitled wankers even complaining about Messi over the years.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #887 on: April 05, 2021, 04:16:49 PM »
He's been unfortunate. He started the season well. He seemed integral to how we were playing. Got injured and has struggled since, flitting in and out the side and lacking confidence.
The transformation on 78 minutes from a player who looked done in a villa shirt, to suddenly looking quality was amazing and a perfect example of what a goal can do. (It boosted the whole team to be fair). When he's confident he's a good player. Same with AEG (who's gone the other way). Granted this is frustrating but this is also what you get in the 8 mill range for a player. generally. Inconsistency. There are exceptions of course but if you want more guaranteed week in/out performances, you pay a lot more.
I like Trezeguet, he tries, he cares, and you can see when his mind isn't right and nothing quite goes right for him. It's frustrating.

I think we're at a stage where one of he or El Goalzi will move on and we'll upgrade. Who goes, I don't know. Flip a coin. For AEG's more prodigious talent, Trezeguet has a bit more application and of the three wingers is the most defensively able when going back.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #888 on: April 05, 2021, 04:22:22 PM »
Raphinha has the same number of goals as AEG from more games. Not that goals are the be all and end all, but he doesn't seem a massive upgrade on what we have based on those figures. I think if you want a player who is already significantly better than what we have (Grealish excepted), you would have to spend a fortune. Obviously you could always buy someone young and cheaper in the hope that he develops into that sort of quality but we don't always have the most patient fanbase.

Raphinha has 6 goals and 6 assists.
Trez has 2 goals and 1 assist
El Ghazi has 6 goals and 0 assists.

Raphinha then, is either scoring or setting up a goal 1 game in 2 on average. Which is much better than any of our wingers.

If he played for us, you'd be moaning.

I imagine fans of every club complain about the inconsistency of their wingers. Because by the very nature of the position wingers are not fully involved as they occupy on side of the pitch or the other. They are provided the least amount of space on the pitch to work with, and the better they are the more likely they are to double teamed. I would put my money on some entitled wankers even complaining about Messi over the years.

Agreed. We had plenty of people moaning about Ashley Young and he was basically fantastic.

Still, I'm not saying we can't upgrade the wingers we have, just that to find (at least) one that is more consistent would be very expensive or a gamble.

Traore is good enough I reckon, at least for the squad. If we were able to sign a megastar I would reluctantly allow one of AEG or Trezagoal to leave, but would wish them all the best for their efforts here.

If we qualify for Europe, you could make a case for signing someone amazing and still keeping all three.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #889 on: April 05, 2021, 04:28:18 PM »
Raphinha has the same number of goals as AEG from more games. Not that goals are the be all and end all, but he doesn't seem a massive upgrade on what we have based on those figures. I think if you want a player who is already significantly better than what we have (Grealish excepted), you would have to spend a fortune. Obviously you could always buy someone young and cheaper in the hope that he develops into that sort of quality but we don't always have the most patient fanbase.

Raphinha has 6 goals and 6 assists.
Trez has 2 goals and 1 assist
El Ghazi has 6 goals and 0 assists.

Raphinha then, is either scoring or setting up a goal 1 game in 2 on average. Which is much better than any of our wingers.

If he played for us, you'd be moaning.

Why? He's miles better than any of our wide players who aren't Jack. You haven't half been talking out of your arse for a couple of days now, what's up?

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #890 on: April 05, 2021, 04:34:46 PM »
McNeil would add something to our team, and he'd bring with him the 'Dyche' attitude of grinding out games.
And, he wouldn't cost £100m.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #891 on: April 05, 2021, 04:46:10 PM »
Agreed. We had plenty of people moaning about Ashley Young and he was basically fantastic.

Still, I'm not saying we can't upgrade the wingers we have, just that to find (at least) one that is more consistent would be very expensive or a gamble.

Traore is good enough I reckon, at least for the squad. If we were able to sign a megastar I would reluctantly allow one of AEG or Trezagoal to leave, but would wish them all the best for their efforts here.

If we qualify for Europe, you could make a case for signing someone amazing and still keeping all three.

Even though I like him I think I'd try to move AEG on in the summer.

From Trez you get work rate and non-stop pressing, it can look headless at times but it does have an impact, his work rate and energy played a big part in our early season form and I think it's a shame that so many people seem to be over-looking that.

Traore you keep because he's capable of moments of genius that no one else in the squad would try (even Jack). The problem is that anyone who tries the sort of stuff he does will lose the ball a lot and frustrate the shit out of you but 5 goals and 4 assists in 27 appearances is a decent return and he will get better.

AEG has the best shot of the 3 but oddly he gets a bit shot shy when his form dips.

Oh and I don't think there's much between Traore and Raphinha.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #892 on: April 05, 2021, 04:58:15 PM »
A lot of it will come down to the player as well.

There were rumours in Jan that some of the big sides in Turkey were sniffing around Trez and if he's of a mind to move, it may be for the best.

AEG has gone up a gear this year  - even with his recent dip in form. But he'll have been at the club three years this summer and might feel the time is right for another challenge.  He could easily play for one of the big sides in a less demanding league; back in Holland or Portugal say, and get Champions League football to boot. 

Bert is the least likely to leave after just one season.

I'd be happy to see them all remain, but with FFP, I'd expect at least one to be off.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #893 on: April 05, 2021, 05:07:17 PM »
Raphinha has the same number of goals as AEG from more games. Not that goals are the be all and end all, but he doesn't seem a massive upgrade on what we have based on those figures. I think if you want a player who is already significantly better than what we have (Grealish excepted), you would have to spend a fortune. Obviously you could always buy someone young and cheaper in the hope that he develops into that sort of quality but we don't always have the most patient fanbase.

Raphinha has 6 goals and 6 assists.
Trez has 2 goals and 1 assist
El Ghazi has 6 goals and 0 assists.

Raphinha then, is either scoring or setting up a goal 1 game in 2 on average. Which is much better than any of our wingers.

If he played for us, you'd be moaning.

Why? He's miles better than any of our wide players who aren't Jack. You haven't half been talking out of your arse for a couple of days now, what's up?

I was teasing, there. Hoped you would pick up on it. I'm surprised you only think it's a couple of days, though!

Haven't seen much of Rafinha but if he's really "miles better" than Traore he must be some player.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2021, 05:11:50 PM by cdbullyweefan »

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #894 on: April 10, 2021, 05:57:28 PM »
As his biggest critic I thought he played well. My only gripe is usually he throws himself down at the slightest touch, today he was too honest in staying on his feet.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #895 on: April 10, 2021, 06:04:44 PM »
As his biggest critic I thought he played well. My only gripe is usually he throws himself down at the slightest touch, today he was too honest in staying on his feet.

Which sums up exactly why players go down screaming, until refs start giving freekicks/penalties for stuff like that players will dive.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #896 on: April 10, 2021, 06:17:31 PM »
AEG has gone up a gear this year  - even with his recent dip in form. But he'll have been at the club three years this summer and might feel the time is right for another challenge.  He could easily play for one of the big sides in a less demanding league; back in Holland or Portugal say, and get Champions League football to boot. 

He wouldn't get in the Porto or Benfica side, Sporting are far too careful with the money, too lightweight for Braga, Vitória de Guimarães would be my bet but only if we loaned him out for the rest of his contract and pay half his salary. I reckon a midtable Spanish or top 6 Turkish side is my bet.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #897 on: April 10, 2021, 07:42:03 PM »
As his biggest critic I thought he played well. My only gripe is usually he throws himself down at the slightest touch, today he was too honest in staying on his feet.

Surprised he didn't go down that time, was definitely go fouled by TAA. Thought Trez had a good second half today. Drew some important free kicks and I think two yellow cards, hit the post and unlucky for the penalty. Terrible first half, mind.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #898 on: April 11, 2021, 09:54:16 AM »
How is he doing on the injury any news?
Looked distraught when came off injured.
So unlucky hitting post and was immense with his endeavour all match if lacking some touches first half

Could have  a penalty for the foul on him as he was impeded and lead to now looking bad injury.

I hope his season isn't over. Felt for him there as say looked upset. Sad to see

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #899 on: April 11, 2021, 11:56:47 AM »
With the heart this lad's got, he would be distraught just at having to come off. Hope he's ok because he looked like he was just starting to find some form and it would be good to see what he can do when he's in form. I think I would keep him next year and replace El Ghazi.

 


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