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Offline brontebilly

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2340 on: Today at 10:18:50 AM »
Konsa is in the last 2 years of his contract, and that puts us in a situation where - if he doesn?t look like he?ll sign a new one on terms we can afford - this may well be our last chance to sell him at a good price. That?s just how it is.

The other thing at play is that over the next 5-6 seasons we?re going to have to replace over half our squad, and more critically over half of the players who?d be nailed on in the starting XI when fit. It going to be a major overhaul and we?re not going to fund it by leaving players until they?re Lucas Digne?s age then flogging them for ?5m-?10m. That gets us 1 maybe 2 replacements, not the 15 we?ll need.

If he has another strong season, even with 12 months left, we still get a good price for him next summer. Plus the bigger point another successful season for the club is worth more than the 15m-20m we might potentially lose out on by not selling him this summer. We have had enough change this summer so he should stay.

With Torres hinting he's likely to head back to Spain once his two years are up then it's clear we need to be signing a potential CB replacement this season. Torres misses far too many games and Mings isn't the answer. Lindelof provided great cover last season but isn't the answer medium/long term either.

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2341 on: Today at 10:21:33 AM »
Konsa is in the last 2 years of his contract, and that puts us in a situation where - if he doesn?t look like he?ll sign a new one on terms we can afford - this may well be our last chance to sell him at a good price. That?s just how it is.

The other thing at play is that over the next 5-6 seasons we?re going to have to replace over half our squad, and more critically over half of the players who?d be nailed on in the starting XI when fit. It going to be a major overhaul and we?re not going to fund it by leaving players until they?re Lucas Digne?s age then flogging them for ?5m-?10m. That gets us 1 maybe 2 replacements, not the 15 we?ll need.

We?ve changed nearly half already!
Yes, and we still have Martinez, Cash, Torres,  Konsa, McGinn, Watkins, Lindelof, Mings, Barkley, Buendia, Abraham, Bailey, and Bizot who will all turn 29 or older this coming season. That?s a big, enforced turnover over the next few seasons ? and will likely be an expensive one too.

Online algy

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2342 on: Today at 10:23:24 AM »
Konsa is in the last 2 years of his contract, and that puts us in a situation where - if he doesn?t look like he?ll sign a new one on terms we can afford - this may well be our last chance to sell him at a good price. That?s just how it is.

The other thing at play is that over the next 5-6 seasons we?re going to have to replace over half our squad, and more critically over half of the players who?d be nailed on in the starting XI when fit. It going to be a major overhaul and we?re not going to fund it by leaving players until they?re Lucas Digne?s age then flogging them for ?5m-?10m. That gets us 1 maybe 2 replacements, not the 15 we?ll need.

If he has another strong season, even with 12 months left, we still get a good price for him next summer. Plus the bigger point another successful season for the club is worth more than the 15m-20m we might potentially lose out on by not selling him this summer. We have had enough change this summer so he should stay.

With Torres hinting he's likely to head back to Spain once his two years are up then it's clear we need to be signing a potential CB replacement this season. Torres misses far too many games and Mings isn't the answer. Lindelof provided great cover last season but isn't the answer medium/long term either.
Ok, and where?s the money coming from to replace Konsa (assuming he doesn?t want to sign a contract on terms we can afford) and Torres in 2 seasons time?

Offline brontebilly

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2343 on: Today at 11:25:32 AM »
Konsa is in the last 2 years of his contract, and that puts us in a situation where - if he doesn?t look like he?ll sign a new one on terms we can afford - this may well be our last chance to sell him at a good price. That?s just how it is.

The other thing at play is that over the next 5-6 seasons we?re going to have to replace over half our squad, and more critically over half of the players who?d be nailed on in the starting XI when fit. It going to be a major overhaul and we?re not going to fund it by leaving players until they?re Lucas Digne?s age then flogging them for ?5m-?10m. That gets us 1 maybe 2 replacements, not the 15 we?ll need.

If he has another strong season, even with 12 months left, we still get a good price for him next summer. Plus the bigger point another successful season for the club is worth more than the 15m-20m we might potentially lose out on by not selling him this summer. We have had enough change this summer so he should stay.

With Torres hinting he's likely to head back to Spain once his two years are up then it's clear we need to be signing a potential CB replacement this season. Torres misses far too many games and Mings isn't the answer. Lindelof provided great cover last season but isn't the answer medium/long term either.
Ok, and where?s the money coming from to replace Konsa (assuming he doesn?t want to sign a contract on terms we can afford) and Torres in 2 seasons time?

We should be well in credit for player transfers this summer. If wages are the issue then maybe we should be redirecting the Paulinha contract to a center half instead. I think Gomes can do that role and more.

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2344 on: Today at 11:33:37 AM »
I'm happy with another midfielder coming in. It's a long old season and player's will take knocks.

Offline Flamingo Lane

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2345 on: Today at 12:14:45 PM »
I agree with what Brontebilly has said, we need to keep Konsa for at least this coming season, selling him now when he still has two years left on his contract would be a big mistake on a number of fronts.

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2346 on: Today at 02:46:19 PM »
If Tielamans, Rogers, and Digne hadnt go e, I would of said thanks for the last 7 years, bit of a modern day club ledge and sell. However those three and konsa are all top players, leaders in the dressing room and kind of a good chunk of the spine of the team.
I really think four in one go is too much turnover, given most new signings will take time to bed in.

Online Dante Lavelli

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2347 on: Today at 05:29:10 PM »
I agree with what Brontebilly has said, we need to keep Konsa for at least this coming season, selling him now when he still has two years left on his contract would be a big mistake on a number of fronts.

Same reasons but different conclusion. We either sell now - and only if the ?60m+ bid materialises - or he sees out his contract.

Konsa is ?only? on ?70k week so he may sign a contract anyway if no one offers the cash this summer.

Ultimately he only leaves on our terms.

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2348 on: Today at 05:55:56 PM »
If Tielamans, Rogers, and Digne hadnt go e, I would of said thanks for the last 7 years, bit of a modern day club ledge and sell. However those three and konsa are all top players, leaders in the dressing room and kind of a good chunk of the spine of the team.
I really think four in one go is too much turnover, given most new signings will take time to bed in.

Exactly where I am on this. It?s the cumulative impact of losing key players. It may be that some of the signings coming in become top players for us, but we?re definitely losing 3, and possibly 4, who have been top players for us. The more we lose the chances of that ratio netting out decreases.

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2349 on: Today at 09:08:37 PM »
We already have 5 centre backs on the books (assuming Cisse is considered part of the senior squad) and Carroll has looked good in pre-season. I think it's one of the last places we need to be adding anyone right now, unless players leave.

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2350 on: Today at 09:10:55 PM »
We already have 5 centre backs on the books (assuming Cisse is considered part of the senior squad) and Carroll has looked good in pre-season. I think it's one of the last places we need to be adding anyone right now, unless players leave.
That's where I am. If we can get the ?60m he's worth, take it and add more quality in MF.

Online Bent Neilsens Screamer

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Re: Ezri Konsa
« Reply #2351 on: Today at 09:56:31 PM »
We already have 5 centre backs on the books (assuming Cisse is considered part of the senior squad) and Carroll has looked good in pre-season. I think it's one of the last places we need to be adding anyone right now, unless players leave.
That's where I am. If we can get the ?60m he's worth, take it and add more quality in MF.

Really? If Konsa leaves we haven?t got enough there without replacing him in my view. It?d be a big ask for Cisse and Carroll to come in for any length of time. Mings looked a bit ropey last season so you?d be looking at a Lindelof Torres partnership for a good portion of the season and the latter missed quite a few games last year.

It?s tough as we might not want to block the path of the youngsters but if Konsa goes I don?t think we?ve got enough.

 


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