If the Premier League want to see how VAR should work they can watch France's second goal tonight. Linesman flags offside, striker sticks the ball in the goal. VAR review, no silly lines, decide the striker looks onside and the goal is given. All sorted within 5 seconds. It's no more complicated than that.
Steve, can I have your babbles
Even when used well it can still get in the bin - there is too much subjectivity involved in decision making that is best left to the ref on the field. It fundamentally changes the match-going experience if you can never properly celebrate a goal, which will still happen regardless of how well it's implemented. The technology still doesn't exist that will accurately measure marginal offside decisions, and a 2D image cannot always show whether or not contact has been made on a trip in the area, or certain handballs for instance - do we end up with a snickometer or hot-spot camera for these decisions? I was against the introduction of VAR from the start as it is the thin end of the wedge when it comes to divorcing the top-level of football from the rest of the game. The one thing in it's favour was supposedly that it would even out the disparity in decisions that most of us perceive to go for the so-called big teams. Even this has been shown up to be bollocks, and if anything it's worse than it ever was. At least before it could be put down to genuine error - now it just looks like actual corruption.
Quote from: Pat Mustard on June 25, 2021, 01:23:31 PMEven when used well it can still get in the bin - there is too much subjectivity involved in decision making that is best left to the ref on the field. It fundamentally changes the match-going experience if you can never properly celebrate a goal, which will still happen regardless of how well it's implemented. The technology still doesn't exist that will accurately measure marginal offside decisions, and a 2D image cannot always show whether or not contact has been made on a trip in the area, or certain handballs for instance - do we end up with a snickometer or hot-spot camera for these decisions? I was against the introduction of VAR from the start as it is the thin end of the wedge when it comes to divorcing the top-level of football from the rest of the game. The one thing in it's favour was supposedly that it would even out the disparity in decisions that most of us perceive to go for the so-called big teams. Even this has been shown up to be bollocks, and if anything it's worse than it ever was. At least before it could be put down to genuine error - now it just looks like actual corruption.Totally agree, the other night with the Lukaku disallowed goal for his toe being offside but the pass to him had already been played to him shown by the blurred shot of the ball leaving the player's pass! It was ridiculous as there was no way they could categorically say that he was offside when the pass was played!Just ruins the game as it shows when Benzema scored his first goal but was flagged offside but got overruled and allowed to stand, the instant elation of scoring has gone!
But they won’t fuck it off. Too much investment in the technology. If it is used as it has been at the Euros most games it wouldn’t even be noticed.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on June 25, 2021, 01:09:31 PMBut they won’t fuck it off. Too much investment in the technology. If it is used as it has been at the Euros most games it wouldn’t even be noticed.The decision to award the penalty against for the supposed foul on Mbappe the other night was as bad as anything I've seen from VAR.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on June 25, 2021, 01:09:31 PMBut they won’t fuck it off. Too much investment in the technology. If it is used as it has been at the Euros most games it wouldn’t even be noticed.The decision to award the penalty for the supposed foul on Mbappe the other night was as bad as anything I've seen from VAR.