collapse collapse
Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Emi Buendia - Signed by Scott Nielsen
[Today at 02:45:32 AM]


The International Cricket Thread by Nunkin1965
[Today at 02:04:17 AM]


1970-71: Outposts of English football by dave.woodhall
[Today at 02:03:23 AM]


Marvelous Nakamba - confirmed by mrfuse
[Today at 01:17:14 AM]


Guess The Goal R20: Liverpool v VILLA Saturday 11th December! 🥅 by 260475
[Today at 12:38:15 AM]


NSWE Investment by sickbeggar
[Today at 12:26:20 AM]


VAR by Gareth
[December 07, 2021, 11:52:55 PM]


Asking for a friend Me. Brentford away by MJW01
[December 07, 2021, 11:48:42 PM]

August 10, 2021, 03:37:52 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 3427 | Comments: 5

It will soon be three years si...
August 09, 2021, 02:47:33 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 5969 | Comments: 40

The Jack Grealish transfer mad...
August 08, 2021, 11:32:36 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 2926 | Comments: 9

So he chose success after all....
August 07, 2021, 01:22:40 AM by dave.woodhall | Views: 2200 | Comments: 3

I well remember the day in Feb...
August 06, 2021, 06:39:59 PM by dave.woodhall | Views: 2458 | Comments: 11

The new name for the 100 ball ...

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Matt Targett - signed  (Read 71737 times)

Offline hilts_coolerking

  • Member
  • Posts: 14368
  • Location: Kennington
  • GM : 26.07.2021
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #195 on: December 11, 2019, 01:06:38 PM »
Yep, red for me too.

Offline AsTallAsLions

  • Member
  • Posts: 8521
  • Location: Everywhere
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #196 on: December 11, 2019, 01:14:17 PM »
May be remembering this wrong but didn't Targett take real exception to a tackle on him in the first half? I think he issued a receipt.

He'd have had no complaints if it was a red. Although I'm not really sure what the fuss is about, him and Ricardo will have shaken hands at the end of the game and moved on. It's not ballet.

Nor is it UFC. I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy seeing players getting their legs broken.

Offline LeeB

  • Member
  • Posts: 21365
  • Location: Standing in the Klix-O-Gum queue.
  • GM : May, 2014
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #197 on: December 11, 2019, 01:27:06 PM »
May be remembering this wrong but didn't Targett take real exception to a tackle on him in the first half? I think he issued a receipt.

He'd have had no complaints if it was a red. Although I'm not really sure what the fuss is about, him and Ricardo will have shaken hands at the end of the game and moved on. It's not ballet.

Nor is it UFC. I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy seeing players getting their legs broken.

And nobody had their legs broken.

Offline Hookeysmith

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9884
  • Age: 57
  • Location: One hand on the handle of the mad / sane door
  • GM : 28.01.2022
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #198 on: December 11, 2019, 01:27:34 PM »
The more you look at it the worse it gets

I would be raging if that was done to our player and it was not a red

I don't think it was malicious but certainly reckless and dangerous

Offline paul_e

  • Member
  • Posts: 26144
  • Age: 41
  • GM : July, 2013
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #199 on: December 11, 2019, 02:09:15 PM »
That challenge isn't a leg breaker in any way.

Offline brontebilly

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 6616
  • GM : 16.05.2022
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #200 on: December 11, 2019, 08:58:10 PM »
That challenge isn't a leg breaker in any way.

Certain red all day, no excuse for being that high and late. If an tackle like that was put in on Grealish or one of our players, this forum would have gone into meltdown.

I have my strong suspicions on Targett's character already I must say. Seemed a touch convenient his injury v Wolves when he was getting destroyed. That tackle on Ricardo was looking for a red, in a get me off the pitch type effort. Again he was getting destroyed at the time. Didnt he pick up a yellow against Chelsea in another petulant type late effort when getting torn a new one. Bit of a regular theme for our 16m left back...

Offline eamonn

  • Member
  • Posts: 23084
  • Location: Down to Worthing...and work there
  • GM : 26.07.2020
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #201 on: December 12, 2019, 08:34:28 AM »
Unfortunately I agree. This player seems to lack moral fibre and comes across as a bit of a wimp. We overpaid for him by at least 100%.

Offline john e

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 17093
  • GM : 20.02.2022
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #202 on: December 12, 2019, 09:58:01 AM »
i like him

Offline AsTallAsLions

  • Member
  • Posts: 8521
  • Location: Everywhere
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #203 on: December 12, 2019, 10:09:46 AM »
That challenge isn't a leg breaker in any way.

It was late, high, with studs showing and excessive force on a player's shin. So, naturally, "not a leg breaker in any way". Unfortunately this is about the level of analysis I've come to expect from you.

Watch it again and tell me people haven't had horrific breaks from similar. It was a dangerous tackle and he should've walked for it.

Offline chrisw1

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5504
  • GM : 20.08.2022
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #204 on: December 12, 2019, 10:30:49 AM »
There's some pretty harsh comments on Targett here. 

I agree it could have been a red, but not that it was deliberately nasty.

I think he's mostly been pretty decent for us and can't really understand this negativity towards him.  It seems some people just aren't happy unless they're slagging off our incumbant left back, whoever thast may be.

Offline LukeJames

  • Member
  • Posts: 3918
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #205 on: December 12, 2019, 10:38:25 AM »
His delivery is very good, he links up well with Grealish, he over laps well, I like what he offers us going forward.

Offline brontebilly

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 6616
  • GM : 16.05.2022
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #206 on: December 12, 2019, 11:13:00 AM »
There's some pretty harsh comments on Targett here. 

I agree it could have been a red, but not that it was deliberately nasty.

I think he's mostly been pretty decent for us and can't really understand this negativity towards him.  It seems some people just aren't happy unless they're slagging off our incumbant left back, whoever thast may be.

Irrational hatred of left backs? Or maybe we have had a stream of utterly useless ones? Bouma had a solid season or two before his injury but I can't recall another one that was passable until the Stan and Alan Wright days.

The latest vintage has a decent left foot on him but that's it. Dreadful defender at this level. Scouting for this one is on Dean Smith.

Offline LukeJames

  • Member
  • Posts: 3918
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #207 on: December 12, 2019, 11:25:54 AM »
There's some pretty harsh comments on Targett here. 

I agree it could have been a red, but not that it was deliberately nasty.

I think he's mostly been pretty decent for us and can't really understand this negativity towards him.  It seems some people just aren't happy unless they're slagging off our incumbant left back, whoever thast may be.

The latest vintage has a decent left foot on him but that's it. Dreadful defender at this level. Scouting for this one is on Dean Smith.

Probably best if you understood how our scouting network now works before going on rants.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2019, 11:28:19 AM by LukeJames »

Offline AsTallAsLions

  • Member
  • Posts: 8521
  • Location: Everywhere
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #208 on: December 12, 2019, 12:10:24 PM »
His delivery is very good, he links up well with Grealish, he over laps well, I like what he offers us going forward.

For what it's worth I agree, and I don't think the tackle was malicious, but dangerous nonetheless.

And however good he may be going forward, he is at least that bad at the back, and that's where the concern comes in for me.

Personally I'd give Hause (were he match fit) a shot at left back ahead of either Targett or Taylor.

Offline paul_e

  • Member
  • Posts: 26144
  • Age: 41
  • GM : July, 2013
Re: Matt Targett - signed
« Reply #209 on: December 12, 2019, 12:16:07 PM »
That challenge isn't a leg breaker in any way.

It was late, high, with studs showing and excessive force on a player's shin. So, naturally, "not a leg breaker in any way". Unfortunately this is about the level of analysis I've come to expect from you.

Watch it again and tell me people haven't had horrific breaks from similar. It was a dangerous tackle and he should've walked for it.

Lets do some analysis then. It's late, given he's sliding in there's not much he can do about that. It's high but if you watch he raises his foot to try to block the ball when it's clear he won't make the tackle, it's not high because it's misjudged or malicious. Studs showing isn't irrelevant because his studs aren't aimed at the player (due to the timing and angle) and don't make any contact, the actual contact is the inside of his heel going across the guys shin. You only have to have a basic understanding of how forces work to know why the angles and impact here make a broken leg a highly unlikely result.

Compare it to something like this -
- where Taylor has studs up straight on to Coleman's shin and you can see what a true leg breaking challenge looks like. The only way a leg break happens in a side on challenge is if the tackled player has his foot planted and the tackle goes into his leg from the side instead across the front.

If Targett is half a second later or if his 'line' is 3-4 inches to his right then yes, red card and potentially a serious injury but that's just not what happened.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal