Quote from: Drummond on June 29, 2020, 02:19:08 PMMoyes and Pearson, two of the more experienced managers in this country have both failed to get much of a tune out of the squads they've inherited; why are you so convinced that anyone else would do better for us?Moyes has been a busted flush for years, employing him was ridiculous. As for Pearson, Watford were rock bottom on 8 points from 15 games when he took over. They're now 16th with 28 points from 32 games. For those first 15 games they took 0.53 points a game, Pearson has taken 1.17 points a game, which if replicated over a season, or indeed, the rest of this season, will probably see them stay up.In the same time that Pearson has been manager, Villa under Smith have taken 12 points from 17 games, or 0.71 points per game. Form that will almost certainly see us relegated.That doesnt tell the full picture though does it?. Watford had the well versed new manager bounce’ but have since won 1 game in 10, there form is awful. And although many months ago, they were awful at villa park in January under Pearson and even though we had to wait till the last minute we were the much better side.They may stay up and we may go down, but the idea that appointing Pearson has been some sort of stroke of genius or the kind of brave decision that villa haven’t taken, is just not panning out.
Moyes and Pearson, two of the more experienced managers in this country have both failed to get much of a tune out of the squads they've inherited; why are you so convinced that anyone else would do better for us?
Quote from: Risso on June 29, 2020, 02:44:35 PMQuote from: Drummond on June 29, 2020, 02:19:08 PMMoyes and Pearson, two of the more experienced managers in this country have both failed to get much of a tune out of the squads they've inherited; why are you so convinced that anyone else would do better for us?Moyes has been a busted flush for years, employing him was ridiculous. As for Pearson, Watford were rock bottom on 8 points from 15 games when he took over. They're now 16th with 28 points from 32 games. For those first 15 games they took 0.53 points a game, Pearson has taken 1.17 points a game, which if replicated over a season, or indeed, the rest of this season, will probably see them stay up.In the same time that Pearson has been manager, Villa under Smith have taken 12 points from 17 games, or 0.71 points per game. Form that will almost certainly see us relegated.That doesnt tell the full picture though does it?. Watford had the well versed new manager bounce’ but have since won 1 game in 10, there form is awful. And although many months ago, they were awful at villa park in January under Pearson and even though we had to wait till the last minute we were the much better side.They may stay up and we may go down, but the idea that appointing Pearson has been some sort of stroke of genius or the kind of brave decision that villa haven’t taken, is just not panning out.
Quote from: SamTheMouse on June 29, 2020, 04:54:35 PMQuote from: darren woolley on June 29, 2020, 04:41:25 PMit's not looking good for us another defeat with Liverpool and Man Utd our next two games I don't know were our next point will come from.The way things are going? Probably at home to Charlton. Ha! You're forgetting our first game of next season, Fleetwood away.
Quote from: darren woolley on June 29, 2020, 04:41:25 PMit's not looking good for us another defeat with Liverpool and Man Utd our next two games I don't know were our next point will come from.The way things are going? Probably at home to Charlton.
it's not looking good for us another defeat with Liverpool and Man Utd our next two games I don't know were our next point will come from.
We are a Championship standard team coached by a Championship standard coach. Next season I suspect we will have found our level.
Quote from: passport1 on June 29, 2020, 06:13:06 PMWe are a Championship standard team coached by a Championship standard coach. Next season I suspect we will have found our level.the problem is, we will need to be better than that level.With the current set up I don’t think we will be.I wonder how excited the owners will be about Division 2.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 02, 2020, 06:58:21 AMQuote from: passport1 on June 29, 2020, 06:13:06 PMWe are a Championship standard team coached by a Championship standard coach. Next season I suspect we will have found our level.the problem is, we will need to be better than that level.With the current set up I don’t think we will be.I wonder how excited the owners will be about Division 2.They bought us whilst we weren't doing great down there. And they know we're currently ahead of the plan, so whilst nobody may be excited, they'll not exactly be shocked.
Quote from: Drummond on July 02, 2020, 09:42:05 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 02, 2020, 06:58:21 AMQuote from: passport1 on June 29, 2020, 06:13:06 PMWe are a Championship standard team coached by a Championship standard coach. Next season I suspect we will have found our level.the problem is, we will need to be better than that level.With the current set up I don’t think we will be.I wonder how excited the owners will be about Division 2.They bought us whilst we weren't doing great down there. And they know we're currently ahead of the plan, so whilst nobody may be excited, they'll not exactly be shocked.I think CL was ironically referring to the 4th tier, Drummond.
Quote from: Mister E on July 02, 2020, 10:05:13 AMQuote from: Drummond on July 02, 2020, 09:42:05 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 02, 2020, 06:58:21 AMQuote from: passport1 on June 29, 2020, 06:13:06 PMWe are a Championship standard team coached by a Championship standard coach. Next season I suspect we will have found our level.the problem is, we will need to be better than that level.With the current set up I don’t think we will be.I wonder how excited the owners will be about Division 2.They bought us whilst we weren't doing great down there. And they know we're currently ahead of the plan, so whilst nobody may be excited, they'll not exactly be shocked.I think CL was ironically referring to the 4th tier, Drummond.I was referring to EFL, someone will have to talk me through how ending up back where they started is ahead of plan.Oh yeh, having lost our 3 best players.Nonsense
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 02, 2020, 11:33:13 AMQuote from: Mister E on July 02, 2020, 10:05:13 AMQuote from: Drummond on July 02, 2020, 09:42:05 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 02, 2020, 06:58:21 AMQuote from: passport1 on June 29, 2020, 06:13:06 PMWe are a Championship standard team coached by a Championship standard coach. Next season I suspect we will have found our level.the problem is, we will need to be better than that level.With the current set up I don’t think we will be.I wonder how excited the owners will be about Division 2.They bought us whilst we weren't doing great down there. And they know we're currently ahead of the plan, so whilst nobody may be excited, they'll not exactly be shocked.I think CL was ironically referring to the 4th tier, Drummond.I was referring to EFL, someone will have to talk me through how ending up back where they started is ahead of plan.Oh yeh, having lost our 3 best players.NonsenseThey weren't expecting to be where we are now. The expectation was another season in the Championship. Therefore we're ahead of the plan. What happens after this season is where we may fall behind the plan. i.e. If we're relegated. Is that clear enough?