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Offline danno

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2130 on: February 13, 2021, 05:40:16 PM »
Who is this Davies that people keep talking about?

Curtis ? Still at Derby possibly?

Will Wesley ever play for us again? The longer he's out the more I'm reminded of Libor Kozak.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2131 on: February 13, 2021, 10:57:16 PM »
Tonight is exactly the sort of performance that makes me want Wesley back and fit, shove him up top with Watkins playing the role Barkley was and ask Wes to just fight for everything and make the defenders know they've been in a game. In the mean time it's a shame Cash had to go off so we couldn't try Davis in the same role.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2132 on: February 14, 2021, 12:47:26 AM »
Davies is being kept fit on the off chance that he's needed to cover Watkins.

If Davies plays he gets injured so it's best he's only used when needed.

Which bemuses me is why he seems to be happy with this situation. Where is the hunger from a lad who was in non league 5 years ago and got picked up by a prem club albeit in name only at that stage.

Could understand it more if he'd only been here for a year but he's played what 15 games since end of 2017?

Should be banging on DS door at Bodymoor every day of every transfer window demanding to go out on loan and properly prove himself but this has echoes to me of the Fonz being a little too comfortable on the bench and by mid 20s he was league 1 and then league 2.

Weimann at least got out on loan, had a really good season when he broke through and while it didn't work out long term has become a very decent championship player. Same for Bannan.

It's all a bit too easy for Kienan really, we seem happy to just hand him contracts to keep him around and he's pretty happy with that when a six month loan could really get his career going.

It's middle of Feb and Wes dosen't seem any closer to getting back so looks like he'll just perform that role for another two months.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2133 on: February 14, 2021, 01:36:17 AM »
Tonight is exactly the sort of performance that makes me want Wesley back and fit, shove him up top with Watkins playing the role Barkley was and ask Wes to just fight for everything and make the defenders know they've been in a game. In the mean time it's a shame Cash had to go off so we couldn't try Davis in the same role.

Pretty sure Wesley is more suited to the role of Barkley. Watkins is your perfect 6 yarder - put it there it goes in the back of the net. Very similar to Tammy.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2134 on: February 14, 2021, 08:20:58 AM »
You feel so sorry for this guy - this might well be a career ending injury caused by one of the most limited agricultural players in the league.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2135 on: February 14, 2021, 09:48:52 AM »
Did anyone see Mee being stretchered off in Burnley's game with Palace yesterday (during which Matt Lowton scored a goal to rival his wonder striker for us against Stoke in 2013 - nice of MOTD to show it in their analysis)?

Mee injured himself by aggressively leading with his elbow in a challenge with a Palace player who ran into him chest first. "We wish him a speedy recovery" Lineker and Co said. Fcuk off !

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2136 on: February 14, 2021, 07:29:20 PM »
Did anyone see Mee being stretchered off in Burnley's game with Palace yesterday (during which Matt Lowton scored a goal to rival his wonder striker for us against Stoke in 2013 - nice of MOTD to show it in their analysis)?

Mee injured himself by aggressively leading with his elbow in a challenge with a Palace player who ran into him chest first. "We wish him a speedy recovery" Lineker and Co said. Fcuk off !

Yeah I thought he stood side on, intending to “shoulder charge” the opponent in the chest and then someone shot him!

Offline frank black

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2137 on: February 14, 2021, 09:50:37 PM »
I really hope he comes back from this, he’s been out for an awfully long time.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2138 on: February 24, 2021, 02:41:58 PM »
According to Greg Evans who has done article on him, Big Wes is back in full training and will hopefully be back some time in March.

I think it's a big ask for him to have any real impact, but will be nice to have someone on the bench who Smith may be prepared to give a few minutes to to change thing up front rather than wasting a bench place on Keinan.

I was never much of a fan of the big fella, but he must have been through an absolutely torrid time having to deal with his injury and Covid isolation in a foreign country etc, so it would be fantastic if he can get his career back on track.  I'll not be holding my breath, but good luck Wes. 

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2139 on: February 24, 2021, 02:58:47 PM »
Will see him from start of April I'd imagine so interested how he looks.

I'm not expecting much as I've said many times. Not solely due to ability but simply 14 months out and it's very tough to get back to a good level if out for that period of time.

Hope he proves me wrong.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2140 on: February 24, 2021, 03:55:21 PM »
He’ll likely get back to full fitness before Ross Barkley.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2141 on: February 24, 2021, 04:02:37 PM »
I hope he can get some 1st team minutes under his belt in April/May and be fully fit by the start of next season.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2142 on: February 24, 2021, 04:59:52 PM »
He’ll likely get back to full fitness before Ross Barkley.

He might already be fitter than him.


EDIT: He's already fitter than Drinkwater ever managed for us.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2143 on: February 24, 2021, 05:48:06 PM »
this is the piece in the athletic:

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Aston Villa’s forgotten man, Wesley Moraes, has returned to full training and is hoping to finally be available for selection again next month.

The now 24-year-old striker has been out of action for almost 14 months since an ACL injury to his right knee away to Burnley on New Year’s Day 2020.

Villa’s medical team warned the Brazil international, who became a club-record £22 million signing from Belgium’s Club Bruges in the summer of 2019, about rushing back into action too soon and therefore delayed his return.

The Athletic can confirm he is now back with the group and working on getting back to full speed for this season’s remaining Premier League fixtures.

What happens next?

Wesley will continue training for the rest of this week with the main group but is unlikely to be rushed back into the match-day squad.

A period of regular, full-contact training will be needed, as well as a behind-closed-doors game or appearance with the under-23s to build up his match sharpness.

Having been out of action for so long, the slow, gradual process of easing him back in is almost at the final stage.

Staff have been working through an extended recovery plan with Wesley to minimise the risk of any setbacks along the way. The hope is that he can now accelerate through the remaining steps of his recovery.

Equally, though, this is an important time where he must be monitored and not over-used.

The “long, painful hours” that head coach Dean Smith talked about are now over and this is the time for him to start finding his feet again.

How is he feeling?

Wesley is happy and in a positive frame of mind. There were difficult periods for him over the last 14 months but it’s felt he has come through it stronger.

Facing up to the lengthy period on the sidelines was initially difficult, especially as he was living in a new country so soon after his record-breaking move in June 2019.

Villa allowed him to return to Brazil and recover in familiar surroundings with his family around him for a period last year.

For the majority of the time, though, he has stayed in Birmingham with his girlfriend. Villa try to integrate the partners of new players by putting on special travel arrangements for their families to away matches. However, that stopped when the lockdown rules were introduced.

That Wesley is yet to play in a game with no supporters in the stadium, it is almost a year since Villa faced Leicester in the Premier League’s last match without COVID-19 restrictions, is a reminder of how long he has been out.

What has Dean Smith said?

Last week, the Villa head coach said: “Wesley had manipulation last week and he looks a lot better and has been on the training ground with us already. That will continue and I’m hopeful for progression with Wes.”

Smith has used new record signing Ollie Watkins as his go-to front man in Wesley’s absence. Watkins is the only Premier League striker to have played every minute of every league game this season, following his £28 million summer transfer from Championship side Brentford. Having Wesley back in action, hopefully in the not-so-distant future, will give the team another option, and allow Watkins a rest.

Will he fit straight back in?

Not necessarily. Watkins is now the player who sets the tempo for Villa up front; his selfless running and regular source of goals have helped transform a side that barely stayed up last season into one on the fringes of the European qualification picture.

There doesn’t appear to be room for twin strikers in Smith’s preferred set-up, so Watkins will retain his starting place with Wesley offering an alternative option if needed.

That’s not to say that Smith won’t experiment with a two from time to time, though. Watkins has also played wide right in the past, including for Smith when they were together at Brentford, and may offer a different threat from that position if Villa are chasing a game or looking to mix things up.

Wesley was starting to look settled in a Villa shirt before his injury, scoring six goals in 22 appearances overall and two in his last five — including one in the game where he suffered his injury.

The cursed No 9

Last year, we detailed the troubles of players who have worn Villa’s No 9 shirt in years gone by. These included Dion Dublin breaking his neck in an on-pitch collision, Darren Bent losing the captaincy, and a string of unsuccessful periods for the likes of Scott Hogan, Nicklas Helenius and Stephen Ireland, who failed to shine with that number on their back.

Wesley, a big fan of countryman and famous No 9 wearer Ronaldo, specifically asked for the shirt when he joined Villa and has retained it this season. His first task is to buck the recent trend set by forwards who have previously flopped as Villa’s No 9.

The future


Villa chose not to add another striker to their squad during the recent winter transfer window as Wesley neared a comeback. However, they will consider recruiting again in that area come the summer.

Wesley will first be given the opportunity to prove himself once he’s fully fit and available for selection. Villa have always wanted to see how he shapes up when he returns given that hefty outlay which currently stands at £1 million per appearance.

Talks over the way forward will take place in the weeks and months ahead. Villa have potential targets drawn up already but will assess the situation closer to the end of the season.

Much will depend on where they finish in the table (they are currently eighth on 36 points with two games in hand on, for example, fifth-placed Chelsea on 43) and whether it’s felt they will need extra resources immediately next season.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #2144 on: February 24, 2021, 05:58:50 PM »
The ability to change our mode of play up front will be massive, allowing Watkins to roam and use his pace and touch will be intersting.  Wesley up top for the last 20 with Watkins running from deeper would give defences a totally different problem.

 


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