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Offline JJ-AV

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1095 on: November 10, 2019, 07:35:52 PM »
Needs to be the number 2. Doing the role Davis has been doing. We need a centre forward to lead the line, he's not there yet.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1096 on: November 10, 2019, 07:38:07 PM »
I'm struggling with this signing to be honest. Has Dean Smith ever played with a big centre forward before? I could be wrong but I don't recall one at Brentford. He had Hogan and Maupay who were smaller and moved into spaces for the through balls and angled passes. I don't even count Tammy as he's not the traditional CF I'm referring to. He's much more mobile.

Yet we have bought a big centre forward, playing him up all alone up front in a brand new league with the rest of the midfield and wide men too far away to help out. Add to that as a big man Wes doesn't really hold the ball up well, doesn't really have a trick or a turn of pace. Is big and looks strong but doesn't intimidate the defenders. Can't really jump for headers either. So either this was a miss as a signing or it's a miss in how we play to get the best out of him. When we have played close to him or got crosses in from the touchline he looks like he is somewhat instinctive. But in the 18 yd box outside of the goal vs Everton I don't recall a meaningful shot and he's done next to nothing outside of the box. I just don't get why we signed him if he's not the type of forward Dean Smith normally employs.
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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1097 on: November 10, 2019, 07:42:15 PM »
Missing out on Tammy and getting him instead will go down as one of the weirdest plan Bs weve seen here. Both makes some sense, one instead of the other is bizarre.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1098 on: November 11, 2019, 03:49:06 PM »

Early in the game yesterday there was a break down the right and the ball was slung in early, Weswas in the Centre forward position, the Wolves goalkeeper caught the ball near the ground-on the penalty spot.
Wes had-run 10 yards away from where the ball landed.
I mentioned before he has a problem picking the flight of the ball, this was a startling demonstration.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1099 on: November 11, 2019, 04:53:58 PM »
At the moment he it truly awful and the goals he has scored can't mask his poor over all play.

Maybe he'll come good, but right now he is just not good enough.  He will cost us dearly if he / we can't sort it out very quickly.  We could be in a very difficult position come mid to late January which realistically is the earliest we can hope for a replacement.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1100 on: November 11, 2019, 06:09:49 PM »
At the moment he it truly awful and the goals he has scored can't mask his poor over all play.

Maybe he'll come good, but right now he is just not good enough.  He will cost us dearly if he / we can't sort it out very quickly.  We could be in a very difficult position come mid to late January which realistically is the earliest we can hope for a replacement.

Cant argue with that

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1101 on: November 11, 2019, 06:46:13 PM »
I thought you weren't going to say another word on Wesley.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1102 on: November 11, 2019, 06:49:39 PM »
Give it a rest, 3 posts in a row to say you don't rate him, including saying you think Smith is frustrated with him (and specifically him) and your almost customary self-agrandising "I said it before anyone else" that you like to throw out whenever you say anything that vaguely resembles what happens.

Wesley missed a couple of chances where he should have done better but other than that he was on his own against a back 3 for most of the game and looked totally isolated. A few times in the 2nd half he came a bit deeper and looked much more effective when he wasn't being crowded out. I'm in no way saying he played well but it's particularly boring to see 3 posts in 20minutes to say "I told you he was shit" because he had a bad game.  No one comes out of the first half yesterday well, it's the worst we've played since Smith arrived, and rightly saw us get nothing from the game, but have some perspective.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1103 on: November 11, 2019, 08:02:45 PM »
I thought you weren't going to say another word on Wesley.


Come on its only 3 posts. 8)

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1104 on: November 11, 2019, 08:11:35 PM »
He needs some help up front. It's as simple as that. Having players hogging each wing is not working.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1105 on: November 11, 2019, 08:37:39 PM »
Missing out on Tammy and getting him instead will go down as one of the weirdest plan Bs weve seen here. Both makes some sense, one instead of the other is bizarre.

We didn't miss out on Tammy, though.
Chelsea couldn't/wouldn't sell

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1106 on: November 11, 2019, 08:40:20 PM »
From what I have seen you could partner him with the best forward in the world and he's still be what he is,  but I hope he proves us wrong. It seems like we get this position consistently wrong. Stars burn brightly for a while then fall to earth or as in this case,  they just splutter along like damp squibs.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1107 on: November 11, 2019, 08:45:42 PM »
Jiminez struck me as a bit of a donkey in the box. Missed the target routinely until given acres of time and space

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1108 on: November 11, 2019, 08:53:58 PM »
Jiminez struck me as a bit of a donkey in the box. Missed the target routinely until given acres of time and space

No pace either, fair play he scores a decent amount but I thought he was poor most of the game, it was Traore and Jota that we struggled with, Traore was just too quick and Jota was playing between Konsa and Guilbert who haven't played together much and it showed.

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Re: Wesley Moraes - signed (confirmed)
« Reply #1109 on: November 11, 2019, 09:04:44 PM »
He needs some help up front. It's as simple as that. Having players hogging each wing is not working.

Very good point. Have a look at the video of Trez on the first page of his thread. That's two players we're not maximising their potential. As for El Ghazi, said it before, he's no winger but can be more useful playing more inside. It's worth a go until January.

 


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