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Author Topic: Great players, Hopeless Managers  (Read 3004 times)

Offline Damo70

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2019, 06:20:07 PM »
Do I dare say Trevor Francis?!


He got Sheffield Wednesday to two cup finals and qualified for Europe via the League. But it was mostly with the squad BFR had taken to promotion and the League Cup the previous season. He also got Small Heath to the League Cup final and into the play offs twice but failed to get promotion despite being given four or five years to do it and spent quite a lot on signings and wages in that time.

I totally forgot that Trev managed Sheffield Wednesday!

I guess my main memory of his managerial career is the hissy fit when the penalties were taken at the wrong end of the ground and the subsequent tears.


I am pretty sure they lost a play off semi final to SGT's Watford on penalties too under Trev. I suppose they were also 'taken at the wrong end'.

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2019, 07:15:23 PM »
Who was TF managing when he smacked one of his substitutes for laughing when they were losing?  Was that Sheffield Wednesday and the game was at Crystal Palace?

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2019, 08:01:36 PM »
Thanks, I had a feeling he managed Palace but couldn't remember exactly and just checked, manager for approx. eighteen months instantly forgettable obviously.

Offline Exeter 77

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2019, 08:03:53 PM »
I remember Francis whinging about a player (who I now know was Martin Allen) attending the birth of his first child.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2000/feb/27/newsstory.sport6




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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2019, 08:07:13 PM »
I remember Francis whinging about a player (who I now know was Martin Allen) attending the birth of his first child.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2000/feb/27/newsstory.sport6


There's an obvious one there...

Offline Nev

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2019, 08:27:02 PM »
"Trev"?

Come on for fucks sake.

Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2019, 08:32:36 PM »
Bruce Rioch, great for us, but not very successful with Arsenal

But he did sign Dennis Bergkamp.


I think that was mainly a David Dein signing.

Again did great for Bolton and okay for Arsenal

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2019, 08:34:00 PM »
No wonder Andy Gray didn't want to be considered.

Offline Exeter 77

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2019, 08:38:00 PM »
I remember Francis whinging about a player (who I now know was Martin Allen) attending the birth of his first child.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2000/feb/27/newsstory.sport6


There's an obvious one there...
I thought I should set it up for someone else ;-)

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2019, 08:41:40 PM »
Do I dare say Trevor Francis?!


He got Sheffield Wednesday to two cup finals and qualified for Europe via the League. But it was mostly with the squad BFR had taken to promotion and the League Cup the previous season. He also got Small Heath to the League Cup final and into the play offs twice but failed to get promotion despite being given four or five years to do it and spent quite a lot on signings and wages in that time.

I totally forgot that Trev managed Sheffield Wednesday!

I guess my main memory of his managerial career is the hissy fit when the penalties were taken at the wrong end of the ground and the subsequent tears.


I am pretty sure they lost a play off semi final to SGT's Watford on penalties too under Trev. I suppose they were also 'taken at the wrong end'.

I think they lost 3 play off semis in 3 consecutive years under TF. Watford, Barnsley and Preston.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2019, 10:10:38 PM »
Thanks, I had a feeling he managed Palace but couldn't remember exactly and just checked, manager for approx. eighteen months instantly forgettable obviously.


As I remember it Francis and Bruce did a job swap. Simon Jordan has pretty much said he appointed Francis because he was pissed off Bruce had gone to Small Heath and he wanted Francis to do better at Palace than Bruce did at Small Heath. He didn't and Jordan admits his tit for tat move was a bad idea and backfired.

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2019, 10:15:10 PM »
"Trev"?

Come on for fucks sake.


I always call him Trev. And I always mean it in the most patronising and disrespectful way possible.

I'd walk a mile and a bit.........

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2019, 12:36:46 AM »
Kompany gives up managerial duties.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49436654

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Re: Great players, Hopeless Managers
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2019, 01:01:40 PM »
Paul Merson deserves a mention.

 


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