Jacob Ramsey

[ozzjim]

It's a second yellow, but I feel for Ramsey because you watch it back Brooks clearly trails his leg back to force contact, knowing full well the outcome. It's horrible and very unlucky.

[Somniloquism]

It's a second yellow, but I feel for Ramsey because you watch it back Brooks clearly trails his leg back to force contact, knowing full well the outcome. It's horrible and very unlucky.

Ramsey also reached onto the shoulder and appears to pull back. That might have been enough for Atwell without the tangle.

[ozzjim]

Yeah. We'd have been screaming for it. Much like we were for any one of the 6 yellows Morsy didn't get at Ipswich. Or indeed Rashfords second yellow at villa park against United.

Overall though as well as he played at times Ramsey's end product was the constant issue. That simply has to improve in the situations we get all our forwards in. As good as Watkins and Rogers stats are, it includes them, end product improves just a fraction, we're 73-77 points already.

[paul_e]

Yeah. We'd have been screaming for it. Much like we were for any one of the 6 yellows Morsy didn't get at Ipswich. Or indeed Rashfords second yellow at villa park against United.

Overall though as well as he played at times Ramsey's end product was the constant issue. That simply has to improve in the situations we get all our forwards in. As good as Watkins and Rogers stats are, it includes them, end product improves just a fraction, we're 73-77 points already.

and we wouldn't have got what we wanted, like the times players didn't get booked earlier to the match for similar fouls. I get that technically it was probably right but, for me, that only applies if the ref has been consistent. The Semenyo one in particular was more obviously intentional contact, in a far more dangerous area of the pitch and with far less defensive cover. If that isn't given as a yellow then no Villa fan should be accepting that the ref had no choice but to send Ramsey off.

[Louzie0]

Am I right in thinking that his red card v Bournemouth puts him out for the rest of the season?

Just the  Spurs game I believe.

Just one match ban, i think.

Thanks; somehow I was convinced he had to miss 3 matches after a red card.

Good news then, that he’ll be back for our last ditch CL tilt against Manure!

[Somniloquism]

Thanks; somehow I was convinced he had to miss 3 matches after a red card.

Good news then, that he’ll be back for our last ditch CL tilt against Manure!

Only a violent conduct red card is straight 3 match. Double yellows, last man or goal bound handball reds are normally just one game.

[Toronto Villa]

The first yellow was just stupid. The second one the ref should have taken a minute. It was much more a coming together of the two players versus a true yellow. He could easily have given him a warning. When you consider players who constantly and intentionally foul and avoid yellows this was a very soft dismissal. Case in point Guimares  against us a couple of weeks back. He should have had two yellows before he even got his first.

[Smithy]

The first yellow was just stupid. The second one the ref should have taken a minute. It was much more a coming together of the two players versus a true yellow. He could easily have given him a warning. When you consider players who constantly and intentionally foul and avoid yellows this was a very soft dismissal. Case in point Guimares  against us a couple of weeks back. He should have had two yellows before he even got his first.

I think he was pretty unlucky. How many players have been sent off in a game for two yellows, despite only committing one foul in the ENTIRE match?

[LeeB]

Yeah. We'd have been screaming for it. Much like we were for any one of the 6 yellows Morsy didn't get at Ipswich. Or indeed Rashfords second yellow at villa park against United.

Overall though as well as he played at times Ramsey's end product was the constant issue. That simply has to improve in the situations we get all our forwards in. As good as Watkins and Rogers stats are, it includes them, end product improves just a fraction, we're 73-77 points already.

and we wouldn't have got what we wanted, like the times players didn't get booked earlier to the match for similar fouls. I get that technically it was probably right but, for me, that only applies if the ref has been consistent. The Semenyo one in particular was more obviously intentional contact, in a far more dangerous area of the pitch and with far less defensive cover. If that isn't given as a yellow then no Villa fan should be accepting that the ref had no choice but to send Ramsey off.

Semenyo got away with being sent off down there last season as well, he seems to have the same invisibillity cloak the Newcastle midfield have.

[dave shelley]

For anyone watching Refwatch this morning, what did Dermot  Gallagher have to say, if anything, about the Ramsey issues.

[Louzie0]

Thanks; somehow I was convinced he had to miss 3 matches after a red card.

Good news then, that he’ll be back for our last ditch CL tilt against Manure!

Only a violent conduct red card is straight 3 match. Double yellows, last man or goal bound handball reds are normally just one game.

D’oh! I knew that! I think I had what Terry Wogan called called a senior moment.
Thanks 😃

[Percy McCarthy]

For anyone watching Refwatch this morning, what did Dermot  Gallagher have to say, if anything, about the Ramsey issues.

He agreed with it, as did Sue Smith. Warnock didn’t.

They mainly talked about the first one, saying that the second one wouldn’t have mattered without it.

[eamonn]

Warnock is so pro-Villa, fair play.

[OCD]

For anyone watching Refwatch this morning, what did Dermot  Gallagher have to say, if anything, about the Ramsey issues.

He agreed with it, as did Sue Smith. Warnock didn’t.

They mainly talked about the first one, saying that the second one wouldn’t have mattered without it.

Which is my view too. Although I wonder whether what happened in the U21 championships and then basically missing the season after that leads to him reacting like that.

[dave shelley]

For anyone watching Refwatch this morning, what did Dermot  Gallagher have to say, if anything, about the Ramsey issues.

He agreed with it, as did Sue Smith. Warnock didn’t.

They mainly talked about the first one, saying that the second one wouldn’t have mattered without it.

Ta Perce. Ramsey really should have known better.