Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread

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Well, not quite, they dumped him after he got it working having stuck by him when it was not. You're attempt at being smart failed there with your ignorance of history.

Probably the same sort of ignorance that leads you to conclude "we're Aston Villa, we're fucking massive, we don't need to copy [clubs significantly better ran than we have been recently]"

[Legion]

At this rate we'll get promoted when the DfS sale ends.

[SheffieldVillain]

You learn from what made them successful and what did not.

What made them successful was dumping a manager that got them promoted when it was not working, and appointing Ranieri. They then dumped him after he won them the league when it was not working and appointed another manager.

Who was sacked after less than eight months.

[Risso]

You learn from what made them successful and what did not.

What made them successful was dumping a manager that got them promoted when it was not working, and appointing Ranieri. They then dumped him after he won them the league when it was not working and appointed another manager.

Who was sacked after less than eight months.

And there they still are, doing alright in the Premier League.  As are Watford, who are on their 5th manager in 4 years.  Obviously stability when things are working is a good thing.  Sticking with a manager when things aren't, isn't such a good idea.  Part of our trouble now is down to not potting Bruce in the summer.  "Give him some time, he deserves until Christmas" was the oft-repeated sentiment on here.  Not working out very well now, that idea.

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I don't think that was the sentiment, it was more that the club was potentially going bust and a managerial change seemed the last thing we needed. Then when the new owners came in, did they know what they were doing? Perhaps not which is why we got Purslow and he binned him in 6 weeks.

[Risso]

I don't think that was the sentiment, it was more that the club was potentially going bust and a managerial change seemed the last thing we needed. Then when the new owners came in, did they know what they were doing? Perhaps not which is why we got Purslow and he binned him in 6 weeks.

It absolutely was the sentiment, no question.

[XXVilla]

You learn from what made them successful and what did not.

What made them successful was dumping a manager that got them promoted when it was not working, and appointing Ranieri. They then dumped him after he won them the league when it was not working and appointed another manager.

Who was sacked after less than eight months.

And there they still are, doing alright in the Premier League.  As are Watford, who are on their 5th manager in 4 years.  Obviously stability when things are working is a good thing.  Sticking with a manager when things aren't, isn't such a good idea.  Part of our trouble now is down to not potting Bruce in the summer.  "Give him some time, he deserves until Christmas" was the oft-repeated sentiment on here.  Not working out very well now, that idea.

We weren’t happy with just doing all right in the premier league if I remember rightly.

[XXVilla]

When in the cold light of day you look at our squad and take into account who is on loan to us it is both frightening and so fuckin annoying when you consider the amount of money we have flushed down the pan in the last 3 years. We definitely don't have the nucleus of a team we can start to rebuild around next season......so we basically start from scratch and that takes time not just one season. I could cry looking back at the way we have been so poorly managed ( from top to bottom). There is no quick fix and therefore I think we will have to accept us as being a championship side for sometime to come.

Leicester City spent 10 years out of the top flight and that included one season in league one. 2 years after getting back to the premier League they won it. It takes time and patience to rebuild a football club. We're only just starting out on our journey.

Wolves. Neither time or patience. Just cunning and money in one pre season.

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Wolves going up had as much to do with a Champions League player in their central midfield.

Lots of ways to skin rabbits. But the Dingles, Leicester, Norwich, Huddersfield...all seemed a lot more mobile than us.

[XXVilla]

Wolves going up had as much to do with a Champions League player in their central midfield.

Lots of ways to skin rabbits. But the Dingles, Leicester, Norwich, Huddersfield...all seemed a lot more mobile than us.

We had a champions league player in our defence last year but didn’t go up.

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We had Jedinak at the bottom of our midfield. They had a 22 year old Champions League player.

[XXVilla]

We had Jedinak at the bottom of our midfield. They had a 22 year old Champions League player.

Great. That’s all we need to do then. Put a Champions League player in our midfield and sorted.

[SoccerHQ]

The 3-4-3 formation worked a treat for Wolves last season.

Their is no set formula really. We've tried buying our way out of this division with the supposed best attacking players at this level and it's been a complete failure.

After the play off final we really should've settled on trying to build a team organically even if that took two seasons but a fresh cash injection and SB couldn't resist loading us with more short term fixes in Bolasie and Abraham (done very well but obviously going to lose him in three months).

[saunders_heroes]

Leicester City spent 10 years out of the top flight and that included one season in league one. 2 years after getting back to the premier League they won it. It takes time and patience to rebuild a football club. We're only just starting out on our journey.

Leicester City are a small club that have spent the vast majority of their history in the lower leagues, 10 years out the top flight was normal for them. Aston Villa are a far bigger team, and should not be using shit clubs like Leicester as a bench mark.

Exactly. I think prior to being relegated a few seasons ago we’d only spent something like 13 seasons outside the top division in English football. The state of the club is a fuckin disgrace.

[Nunkin1965]

Leicester City spent 10 years out of the top flight and that included one season in league one. 2 years after getting back to the premier League they won it. It takes time and patience to rebuild a football club. We're only just starting out on our journey.

Leicester City are a small club that have spent the vast majority of their history in the lower leagues, 10 years out the top flight was normal for them. Aston Villa are a far bigger team, and should not be using shit clubs like Leicester as a bench mark.

There’s no point in discussion if you just resort to calling Premier League clubs shit. That’s just offensive. I’d argue that only one club has been properly run recently.
And that’s not us.